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Originally Posted by Larv
I will trust you when you say this happens. It hasn't ever happened to me that I know of, except maybe with a little acid here and there. But it all gives me concern because of Wittgenstein's central problem. "What we cannot speak about we must pass over in silence."
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Don't trust the acid, trust me. It has happened. My own experience is that I don't know what has happened to me until long after. The rational, literate part of me rejects what the irrational part of me has experienced. But I know, in retrospect, that I have experienced something.
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Nay, it's all part of the debate, I think.
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It's something beyond that. It's the circular, rambling, spinning argument that is being drawn into a vortex it knows exists but denies. It is what people do drugs to get, but they, like Jway has suggested, already have it inside them. It is at the same time sense and nonsense.
Thank you for dragging things out of me I've never told anybody because I was sure they would laugh at me. To find somebody who disagrees but still discusses this kind of stuff respectfully is really wonderful.
Again, thank you.
--lemit