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Originally Posted by SidewalkCynic

You see, I think you are equating the industry of science with the definition of science.

Although, you make a good analysis of the connotation(sp) that "industry," brings, you basically are disregarding that what ever organization employs scientists is agenda driven, and all the rest of the descriptors. You, just are not identifying all the specifics, because they may not be available, or your idealism of science causes you to disregard.

I think you're confusing Engineering with Science. They use each other but they are distinct things.
Science is a structured approach towards gaining information.
Engineering is applying known information to create something.

I think that is the main thing causing your confusion. A genetic scientist learns things about genetics; a genetic engineer applies things scientists have learned to create/alter genetics.

Originally Posted by SidewalkCynic

That is, basically, what I have been trying to convey to Atheists. They are prime examples of irrational thought in support of reason - if they are a bastion of reason, why can they not decide on anything?

Not even what to call themselves

because Scientists are not usually language masters. They have their own industry specific speech and a good portion of them can't spell worth a damn or hold a 'normal' conversation.
(on a side note, the genes "sonic hedgehog" "superman" and "kryptonite" are prime examples of how non-standardized naming procedures in science have really muddied some waters; those names only makes sense in the specific organism in which they were first discovered, but actually appear in many other genomes)

You might want to take a step back and rethink exactly what you're trying to classify.