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[alexander]

Hey, Buffy's back

Okay, calm down alexander. I actually know Laura, and she's a pretty smart cookie. Moreover, I used to do what she does for a living at a different analyst company.

No offense to anyone, ps, are you supposed to favor things that you get paid for and be totally against things that you are not when you are writing an article?

The key to being a good industry analyst is to be controversial, and she can do it in spades. Although someone obviously got under her skin (bad move in this business), some of your key points are just as selective in portraying the truth as hers are.

Well, the thing is that the points i state are the major points that i had problems with in the article, i couldnt even start writing such an article, i used to be a windows guru for a while, started with 2.0 to 3.11 to 95, 98, me (for 2 hours, may i just add that that was the worst OS ever produced), nt, 2000 pro and finally to XP, oh and server in the server room. Anyways its been less than a year since i've switched to Linux 100% and the thing is, you can do things that you could not imagine doing in an operating system when running windows in Linux, the power of the command line is truly many times greater than that of any menu as you are unrestricted in any way, and you can do whatever your imagination can come up with. (i remember yesterday my friend was demonstrating for loops in bash to another friend of mine, so he catted make.conf in a 150 or so character command line for loop, it was amazingly funny, command line obfuscation lol ) anyways i could expand on anything i've posted above, and again no offense meant to anyone.

The problem in this debate--as unfortunately is the case in most "my apple is better than your orange (to mix my metaphors)--is that the various conflicting views in fact are all equally valid.

But this debate is a bit different from my apple is better than your orange, its not a matter of taste or color or smell, it says that my orage will not only not rot, it will grow faster, be sweeter and is capable of doing backflips on a snowmobile if you wanted it to...

I actually buy into the basic bottom line of Windows having a lower TCO, simply because there are more resources out there for it.

Disagree, you cant find that many windows communities, you go to any linux distro site forum, and you see tens if not hundreds of thousands of people that are like yourself (or even more obsessed), any problem, well chances are that someone else had a problem that you are having, and will be able to help, if not the developers also drop by these forums, or bying your support from Suse or Novel or RedHat, you can get on the phone with one of the developers, not with MS though, you ever try getting any info from them, you have to get bumped up to like the 20th level to get anyone smart enough to know where user options are?

It can crash twice as often and still have less down time than Linux, according to the numbers above, maybe even more.

it could be just me, but i can not see where you get your point of view here, could you perhaps explain that, i just cant see it, so it could be my missconseption of linux, or yours, just get it more clear for myself, if it crashes and linux doesnt how can it have less down time?

I'll buy that! I know lots of IT heads who get *very* nervous without heavy duty support about anything that has a whiff of open source.

well, no offense again, but IT heads != knowledgeble people, if they had hired a decent linux guy, one or two people would be enough to make them be able to get the cheapest support for any open-source thing, it was not in their culture, they probably never ran Unix... Again no disrespect, but the IT guys at my school are exactly like that, their only Linux box ran redhat, and everyone in IT was(and is) afraid of it, i remember we did an nmap scan of the box, and something like 1200 ports were open, we figured that some script kiddie owned the box, so we wrote a letter to the it, 2 months later we wrote another letter to the IT, because the problem was still there, and a few months later the box got finaly closed (new IT guy)

Linux would be nowhere today without IBM according to most of my industry analyst friends. Whoa! Hows that for "software wants to be free?"

Linux would be nowhere without Linus, or GNU and Stallman, Novell and RedHat and Suse, and Debian and Slackware and Gentoo and Apache and PHP and the WWWeb, and the hacker community and even the cracker community, yes, IBM has helped, but linux is the worlds biggest hack it never depended on a single thing, and at the same time always did... similarly microsoft would be nowhere today without IBM and Apple and Xerox and Intel and many other companies that helped it on its way so...