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Old 05-21-2004   #10 (permalink)
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RE: hey, Lets start some math discussion!

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Originally posted by: sanctus
Yes, there is even and odd in nature

a quanton is a boson if he is constituted of a even number of fermions and it stays a fermion if there is an odd number of fermions (I have to say I just read that, it's not that I know much about).
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Originally posted by: Tormod
I am not sure if the numbers themselves are to blame for this. I think "numbers" are a human invention,...
Another thing is the type of strange phenomena like the fibonacci sequence which can be found all over the place - in sunflowers. how branches are located on a tree, the ratio of the sprial arms of a galaxy. Yet the fibonacci sequence is simply a series of number...
If we hadn't invented numbers we would probably never see this sort of thing. But does that mean that mathematics is the foundation of our universe?
Perhaps it does. It SEEMS that nature sets things up in "countable" groups. Even wave/ particle collapse seems oriented towards individual elements, not some continous stream. Matter seems to have a finite smallest size. there seems to be a discrete number of electrons/ protons/ ... in an atom and specific measurable quantities of atoms in different molecules, ...

Or do all these things exist like this because we expect them to? Does the wave collapse into a singular particle because that is what we are measuring for?

Do numbers exist because we want them to? Or did we discover numbers because nature is broken into discrete units?


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