Science Forums 2

[Freethinker]

Originally posted by: CD27
well, if you do not know me, obviously to belive a religion such as christianity as i do, then you msut also kno that i belive it because it makes sense as well..

NO we don't KNOW that. In fact the reverse is more accurate. We DO know that you INTENTIONALLY accept lies from your Christian leaders. You have said so yourself. Thus we KNOW that you beleive, NOT because it makes sense, but because you WANT to. Even when it DOESN'T make sense. You do not hold "making sense (reason and logic)

so how is that regressing? and if astral projecting is a hallucination, then so is every single sense you have in your entire body, all of them.

This is pure nonsense. There is absolutely no valid connection. All you show is your continued inability to draw valid, reasoned conclusions.

because from all of the reports i ahve read on this, all of your senses are intact, and everything you are seeing is real..

Try reading sources that are not intended to promote this hocus pocus. Try reading SCIENTIFIC sources. You will not find a single Scientific source that validates AP. Not a SINGLE ONE!

i find it odd how people can hallucinate going to a place they've never been to and then they ask someone who has, and it is exactly as they visioned it

It's easy to make false claims. When controlled tests are put in place, these claims go away.

..was that a hallucination as well? plus the fact that i had a dream of the future when i was 6 years old (unfortunately is the only thing i can remember of my past before the age 11) which gave things in greate detail, detail so great, that it even told me that my parents would be divorced in the future...funy, ebcause when i ahd the dream, they were not yet divorced. and that is no hallucination or remembering and making up of thoughts, becaue i can remember 10 minuted before and after the dream, which are highly accurate with hat my family tells me was going on during that time.

Oh man, there is so much in there that needs to be ripped apart. It is like a text book case of how NOT to think. You can't remeber ANYTHING about the 1st 11 years of your life, except a DREAM? OK, ya right! BUT, contrary to THAT claim, you CAN remember 10 mins before and after.

A "DREAM" happens during REM (Rapic Eye Movement) sleep. It indicates a particular phase of sleep which takes a while to get to. While you could ahve been woken up immediately after the dream, you most likely would NOT have been awake 10 min before. From the National Institute of Health web stie:

"The first REM sleep period usually occurs about 70 to 90 minutes after we fall asleep. A complete sleep cycle takes 90 to 110 minutes on average."

As to being "aware" of things that happen while you are "asleep", there is nothing new about our senses continuing to work and absorb stimulous around us while "asleep". If this was not the case, then noises would not wake us up. Alarm clocks would not have been invented.

As to "predicting" parental divorce. Even at a young age of 6, you would notice parental relations. And even if there were no outward signs, the FEAR of it is common in young kids. Either of these would be more than enough for a 6 yrold to have thoughts/ dreams of it. Should it eventually happen, you can easily, falsely assign this coincidence as "prediction".

Just as you can easily "invent" things that did not actually happen. Especially when trying to recall things from that long ago when you were that young. You are probably too young to remember the big fiasco regarding false "reccovered memory". People arrested and jailed for things they never did. The "evidence" was so convincing that innocent poeple were convinced they did things they did not do. Some even plead Guilty! From Science Daily:
<BR