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I rather agree with the heart of what Buffy is saying in that last post. People, teachers especially, have the right to present science as they see the facts. We scientists tend to get very much emotional about our science as do those who are religious get emotional about their beliefs. One can present alternative ideas and at the same time make a clear presentation of exactly how oneself see it without having to step on toes are be politically incorrect, so to speak. Religion has not got the right to dictate how one believes any more than say athiesm has to right to tell everyone they cannot believe.

The heart of real religion is faith which makes it more a personal thing than anything else. The heart of the Christian faith is a relationship or at least its supposed to be. Here again we are talking about something that is personal. One can have a personal relationship and still subscribe to science. Science is a tool of discovery. The one who the relationship is supposed to be with is called Truth. The two do not have to be exclusive of each other. Nor do they always have to be seen as enemies.

I am against fundamentalistic attitudes weither it comes from an athiest or a Christian or some other faith out there. I have problems with the current ID presentation. But at the same time its a far better approach than the older literal seven day camps version of science. Their approach lacked any real science behind it. At least the ID camp is willing to admit perhaps "God" used evolution as his tool. What they want to debate is the issue of how evolution really works which in some ways is perhaps worth debating. New Ageism is more pseudo-science than anything else. Sorry you closet New Agers. But that is the bottom line there. And I personally divorce real paganism/pantheism from the New Age movement and believe it would be in their best interest to do the same also. As for Christians having any part with such a movement as that of the New Age group there nuts if they do. Chrstians would be far better off siding with us scientists since at least both groups are after the truth, not mysticism.