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Originally Posted by Qfwfq
Virtualmeet, I obviously did not mean to say that it was Giuseppe Peano (1858-1932) that first invented the natural numbers!!!!!!  He simply formalized the age-old concept. You seem to have missed my point even more, about what is real and natural vs. some "language" or symbolism that we invent to the purpose of describing it. Not that I would strictly say there are any numbers in nature, there are only things, and quantities of them that we describe usng numbers.
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Sorry about my misunderstanding. Sometimes, I can have more difficulties to read natural languages (specialy english) that I can do with the mathematical one
