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Originally Posted by Pyrotex
I am a trained observer. You are wearing the watch, and you spin the stem ahead five minutes.
I still see you standing there.
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Well, I will agree with you up to here but from then on, I don't think you have thought it out so well.
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Mass and energy are conserved.
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Now how did you come to that conclusion? That "time machine" might have some rather energetic effects. I certainly don't know what powers it.
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But you do not move.
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That cannot possibly be correct. As the time machine is described the user must advance to the time indicated on the face of the watch like mechanism. So if you observe him carefully, you must see the position of the stem rotate slowly as time passes; likewise, you must see the hands advance as if it were an accurate watch (he always exists at each and every time displayed on the face of the device).
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I take out my microscope. Nothing on you is moving at all, not a hair, not a microbe.
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Well close but no cigar!

Unless the traveler can rotate the stem instantaneously some motion will be detectable (the motion of his finger tips which rotate the stem if nothing else). Suppose that, to the traveler, rotating the stem takes him two seconds; that during that time his heart beats twice and he inhales once. You will see him inhaling very slowly (takes five minutes to inhale once) and that artery in his wrist will bulge slightly twice during that five minutes.
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You are cold to the touch, colder.
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Well, "to the touch" measurements have to do with heat transfer rates, not with actual temperature. Temperature has to do with equilibrium heat transfer rate and that is very closely related to mass and energy effects which might be altered significantly by those mass and energy effects which I don't think you got right. I'll talk about those later with another thought experiment.
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I look closer. It is not you I see, but a mirror surface that perfectly conforms to the surface of your skin, each hair, each freckle.
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Well, reflection has to do with the fact that the electric field of the light moves the electrons and that the motion of the electrons acts like an electro-magnetic oscillator broadcasting its own outgoing wave. If the electrons are free (as in a conductor) the out coming wave will be a duplicate of the incoming (and the reflection is mirror like). If the electrons are bound, the binding forces distort the interaction and you get more complex effects. So in both cases, the appearances will depend on that "mass energy" thing.
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I use a baseball bat and gently push against you. You fall over with a surprising lack of sound. You cannot be moved, even to make vibrations. The only sound comes from the floor material. You are in total stasis, the Unmovable Object. I strike you with the bat, but only the bat goes thud.
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This description should bother you a little. Look at it from the travelers perspective. During that two seconds (from his perspective) he will see you suddenly swing that bat at unbelievable speed and strike him with enough momentum transfer to make him hit the floor in a fraction of a second. In fact, I doubt very much that his eyes would flicker at all after that impact and certainly not after the "beating". But before we conclude that description, we need to look at mass energy effects.
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No time has passed for you at all.
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False! The time passage for the traveler must be identical to the length of time he thinks it took to turn the stem.
Does anyone out there argue with my comments? I'll need some kind of reaction! If I get two agreements with my description of the phenomena, I will present another, slightly altered experiment which will answer the mass energy phenomena.
Have fun – Dick
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