Hello C1ay,
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Originally Posted by C1ay
I do not accept any claim of supernatural origins of such a book with absolutely no scientific proof of any supernatural existance. (sic) Without rigorous scientific proof of the supernatural I regard such claims as science fiction.
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Then you must know how it feels to be a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest.
Reason is the proof of science,
faith the proof of religion, and logic is the proof of philosophy.
That isn't going to change any time soon. There is real "proof" of spiritual reality in the presence of the Spirit within us, but the validity of its presence simply isn't demonstrable to the external world; only to the ones who experience it. And just like any other human experience, it can be a mixture of truth and error, or right and wrong.
Reason is the act of recognizing the conclusions of consciousness regarding the experience in and with the physical world; faith is the act of recognizing the validity of spiritual consciousness— something which is incapable of "scientific proof."
Logic can produce a unity of faith and reason, because it is founded on our innate ability to recognize things, meanings, and values. Science can use reason until it arrives at a hypothesis of a First Cause, but that's really as far as it can go. But religion can use faith until it is sure of a God of salvation.
The discriminating study of science logically suggests the reality and existence of an Absolute. Religion, on the other hand, believes in the existence of an Absolute which provides survival. What metaphysics fails to do, and even philosophy partially fails in doing, revelation does; that is, affirms that the hypothetical First Cause of science and religion's God of salvation are one and the same.
—Saitia
