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Old 04-20-2006   #202 (permalink)
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Re: Time doesn't really exist

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Originally Posted by Little Bang
The photon has no future only a past.
In it's own frame (which is where you must be if you are going to see things from the photon's perspective), it doesn't even have a past!
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Originally Posted by hallenrm
We all agree that atoms exist, electrons exist and so on ...
Then you would say that the question of existence is a state determined by belief? That means the gods exist; at least for the people who believe it!
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Originally Posted by arkain101
what if you could go back in time?
Ok, let's look at that from your perspective. For the sake of argument, suppose you have a personal time machine (let it be that car from "Back to the Future"). Now, exactly what do you mean by going back in time? Don't you mean that the events you experience are those which you previously attributed to the past? That is, you re-experience (somewhat altered perhaps) events you have already experienced or at least thought that others had experienced? Aren't these just new events to you? It seems to me that you simply continue to experience new events! Every morning, I experience the sun rising again and events proceeding slightly different from the way they did the last time I woke up. Perhaps, from your perspective of my experiences, I am just reliving the same day?

It is exactly that perspective which led me to the conclusion that "the past is what you know", "the future is what you don't know" and the present is "the event of learning new things". I suppose you guys are all much more brilliant than I am but I really do wish you would explain to me why you find my definition of time so implausible.
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People from the infinite future would be showing up all the time.
But isn't that exactly what happens as you walk down the street? Wasn't the event (of meeting those people) in the future before you met them.
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... travelers would come back and warn people of things and all kinds of wacky strange stuff.
Gee, from my admittedly mundane experiences, the world seems to be chock full of people warning us of wacky strange stuff.

Someone, anyone, please explain to me why "time" is something other than a personal parameter describing the order of our growth in information. I cannot understand why you all think that your that your personal comprehension of time (that diary of experiences you have constructed) must map faithfully over all of the supposed experiences of others. That very concept implies the existence of a universal time which is a direct contradiction of experiment. As I see it, the concept "time" only makes sense as a personal organizational parameter of our experiences. Please, persuade me that I am wrong.

Have fun -- Dick

I think a lot of people who think they think don't think at all.
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