7 Reasons to Abandon Quantum Mechanics-And embrace this New Theory

[Erasmus00]

A few things I've missed over this thread

We have tunneling right? This allows a non-conservation of energy at the strictly microscopic level, right? Well, why then is it so surprising that there is no strict conservation of momentum during microscopic tunneling?

First, tunneling does NOT allow for non-conservation of energy. Now, lets talk about your theory- it has a complicated time behavior (hence not symmetric in time) which leads to non-conservation of energy.

However, we should still have translational symmetry- which means we should treat momentum conservation as fundamental.

According to this New Theory, a neutron is a bound proton and electron, and an anti-neutron is a bound anti-proton and positron (and not a combination of quarks.) Perhaps for a neutron, an electron would be in some circular supersmall orbit around the proton, like some kind of femto-hydrogen.

We know from deep scattering that the neutron is not a proton and electron but rather seems to be made of 3 point like fractional charged objects.
-Will

[Qfwfq]

Originally Posted by andrewgray

According to QM, a "photon" is a circularly polarized thing with a certain probability of going through a polarizer. Well, if this is true, then after a successful one goes through a polarizer and strikes metal, then there should be no preferred direction for photoelectron ejection. There are no "vertically polarized photons", according to QM.

But there is such a thing as coherent linear superposition. QM does not say that the field can only be circularly polarized.

In the angular momentum spectrum of photons there are only the two eigenvalues and this is very important in studying the interaction of photons with a simple system, because angular momentum must be conserved. For instance, selection rules for atomic spectroscopy match up with this as well as other things. Consider this and your problem with polarization begins to look a bit like the one with energy-momentum. The photon does not interact solely with the electron ejected from the photocathode.

Originally Posted by Erasmus00

We know from deep scattering that the neutron is not a proton and electron but rather seems to be made of 3 point like fractional charged objects.

Actually much more than three. The quarks usually mentioned for a given hadron are the overall net of quarks and antiquarks.

[DryLab]

Hi Andrewgrey; I like your theory; I've followed here and on other forums. I wonder if you've considered a mechanism that would provide your blinking electron. I've always thought of an electron as a photon trapped in a repeating pattern, maybe circular. The electron would then blink at a rate related to its electromagnetic radius and the speed of light.

Originally Posted by Andrewgrey

It was in the latter part of the last century that electrons were discovered to be smaller than 10-15 cm from electron scattering experiments.

I think electrons were not discovered to be smaller as in the quote. There was nothing detected that was smaller than the electron's electromagnetic radius. So, my thinking is that there is nothing else there. I explore that here

[Erasmus00]

Originally Posted by Qfwfq

Actually much more than three. The quarks usually mentioned for a given hadron are the overall net of quarks and antiquarks.

Yes, but when you do deep scattering, the relevant energy scale is quite high, and the strong coupling (being asymptotically free) is small. This leads to the nucleon acting like 3 free quarks in these experiments. Feynman's so-called Parton model.

Smaller energy scattering to probe the bound states of the nucleon are much more difficult to interpret.
-Will

[andrewgray]

About Microscopic Non Strict Conservation of Energy

Beta Decay Started it all. Beta decay has an electron and anoter particle "exploding" away from each other. The two resultant particles do not comply with conservation of energy and momentum:



QM response: Invent a "massless" particle to carry away the missing energy and momentum at (nearly) the speed of light: the neutrino.

This New Theory's response: Tunneling allows strict microscopic non-conservation. (Only time averaged).

Which one to choose? Well, the QM'ers had their work cut out for them to find these "neutrinos". They built HUGE detectors that saw 2 or 3 ticks from muons or positrons PER DAY. So take note: Neutrino "detections" are not actually neutrino detections, they are actually detections of other particles. There is no way to verify that "neutrinos" were actually there. But even so, this neutrino data was not even close to the numbers predicted by their theory, so now we have neutrino oscillation fudge!. Yes, now we have the "neutrino oscillation" hypothesis. Since the experimental numbers did not agree with QM predictions, they simply hypothesized that they must have been changing into something else! This is the ultimate example of changing a theory to match changing data. This seems to be human nature, and change comes, (as Erasmus says), only at "great cost".

However, this New Theory seems promising, and the purely logical mind would at least look at the possibility that we do not have pure microscopic conservation of energy and momentum due to tunneling. The neutrino hypotheses are still hazy enough to just let go of them.

Andrew A. Gray


P.S. To Be Continued. I realize that I have not addressed all points put forward to me. You guys are faster than me. Apologies.

[andrewgray]

But there is such a thing as coherent linear superposition. QM does not say that the field can only be circularly polarized.

Yes, QM can "make" vertically polarized light by "adding" clockwise and a counterclockwise "photons" together. However, Bohr's principle comes into play. QM says that the photoejection is a particle interaction with max energy hν-Ф, not 2hν-Ф, implying interaction with one photon. One photon does not vertical polarized light make.

QM theory needs to hypothesize the "particle" nature of light to get the hν energy limit. This New Theory does not. This clearly is an advantage, as we then can restore the reality-based transverse E field ejections, just like the obvious microwave example above. One final comment. Did you ever think that a "particle" collision (hypothesized as an absorption) would have the tendency to "knock" the ejected electrons forward instead of sideways? Did you wonder how the metal plate was also "knocked" sideways? If the electron was "bound" to the metal plate, and the the electron was "knocked" sideways, wouldn't it pull the plate along with it (instead of having it go off in the opposite direction?)



The above diagram is according to QM. This New Theory has non-acceleration resonance instead of "photons". None of the above paradoxes apply. That is, when the pulsation frequency of the ejected photoelectron just matches the peaks of the incident wave, the electron simply moves up and down in the comoving inertial frame, going nowhere. The acceleration is over. That leaves us free to consider the incoming light as a wave, as it clearly should be. The plate does not have to recoil, as this New Theory describes the photoejection simply as a transverse electrical force on the electron, and not as a collision.

Andrew A. Gray

[andrewgray]

Originally Posted by Erasmus

We know from deep scattering that the neutron is not a proton and electron but rather seems to be made of 3 point like fractional charged objects.

Originally Posted by Qfwfq

Actually much more than three. The quarks usually mentioned for a given hadron are the overall net of quarks and antiquarks.

Aunt Mary has some pain in her abdomen, so the doctors want to probe her to find out what's inside. To do this they drop a hydrogen bomb on her, and watch what comes out. "Oh, she has a tumor on her diaphram", the doctors exclaim. Pretty far fetched, right? No one would believe that watching Aunt Mary's pieces come out would reveal anything about her current abdominal condition. Blasting her apart only reveals that she can be blasted apart.

So why the surprise to find my skepticism when you probe a neutron or a proton by annihilating it with anti-protons with a GaZeV (gazillion eV's)? We see some pieces come out after the anti-proton "atomic bomb" is dropped on it, but so what? In the same way with Aunt Mary, this does not give a picture of how it was before the bomb. So how do you know that a neutron wasn't a proton and an electron if you blasted it into pieces, and you saw "some stuff" come out? You don't.

Blasting protons and neutrons into pieces and categorizing the pieces (and giving Nobels for the predictions) is all well and good, don't get me wrong. But studying the properties of the blasted neutron bits doesn't reveal that much about the original particle, in my opinion, just like blasting apart Aunt Mary with a nuke doesn't tell a psychologist much about her personality.

I am much more interested in getting nanoscale science correct at this point. Nanoscale physics is not that "mysterious" anymore, as we are starting to be able to "see" things at this dimension. In my opinion, we must get nanoscale physics correct before we can get femtoscale physics correct. And I do not believe that we have nanoscale physics correct yet. That's why the New Theory.

Originally Posted by Qfwfq

So weak interactions and QCD are BS too? Gosh I knew some of the people on both the Delphi and the SLAC groups and I won't believe they were lying about the top quark events that were recorded.

See above.

Andrew A. Gray

[andrewgray]

Originally Posted by DryLab

I like your theory; I've followed here and on other forums.

Thanks for the encouragement.

I've always thought of an electron as a photon trapped in a repeating pattern, maybe circular.

DryLab, it seems that this New Theory does not include "photons".

Andrew A. Gray

[Qfwfq]

First of all a clarification for Will: My remark about "more than three" was not meant to contradict the point that DIS shows charges being in thirds of e. It took me a while to figure that you must have meant your reply only in this sense.

What it does mean however is that the picture is even more complicated than three quarks just sitting there, hadroninc matter could hardly be described without RQFT. And, Andrew, DIS doesn't necessarily blow the hadron apart. In order to extract information about the electric charge of single quarks, it is enough to consider the data of events for which the lepton's interaction was hard enough (and if you don't know what that means, look it up) and that's pretty much what the "deeply inelastic" in DIS means.

Originally Posted by andrewgray

Yes, QM can "make" vertically polarized light by "adding" clockwise and a counterclockwise "photons" together. However, Bohr's principle comes into play. QM says that the photoejection is a particle interaction with max energy h?-?, not 2h?-?, implying interaction with one photon. One photon does not vertical polarized light make.

And where did I mention two photons rather than a single one? You don't appear to be understanding the quantum formalism, which you are presuming to not only criticize but even refute. Not all observables are compatible, otherwise there wouldn't be Heisenberg's principle. If an interaction makes it sensible to say what the direction of the electric field vector was, then certainly it couldn't have also observed angular momentum. Those who know me well enough around here know I use different attitudes with people that are asking for help about things that are hard to understand (including QM which is freakin' wierd) and those who think they can prove something is BS, only because they know little about it. So, before trying to knock down QM, get a better understanding of it.

Originally Posted by andrewgray

However, this New Theory seems promising, and the purely logical mind would at least look at the possibility that we do not have pure microscopic conservation of energy and momentum due to tunneling. The neutrino hypotheses are still hazy enough to just let go of them.

What do you mean by "pure microscopic"? What do you mean by "non strict"? Without either the neutrino or some other garbage bin, we'd have to conclude that energy is consistently disappearing. Not even average conservation.

Originally Posted by andrewgray

You guys are faster than me.

Actually, I'd say I'm pretty darn slow, due to having other fish to fry, so you should be feeling lucky.

[andrewgray]

Originally Posted by Erasmus

Which stat-mech book are you using,btw?

Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics
Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics

, by Frederick Reif.

Originally Posted by Qfwfq

So, what about polarization dependence? I remember a basic exercise in my RQFT course, which explains it fine for the Compton effect.

Qfwfq,

I am not familiar with a QM polarization explanation in the Compton Effect. Do you have a reference or do you care to explain? How does the Compton effect vary with polarization? I have made some predictions about this and it would be very interesting to see if they are true.

Here is how this New Theory explains the Compton Effect for changed x-ray wavelengths at different angles:



This New Theory predicts that the most likely ejection angle for the Compton electrons would be at 90^o. However, since the Compton experiment uses a solid metal plate as the target, 90^o ejections would be impossible (a metal vapor would be better, allowing transverse ejections). The forward direction would be the most unlikely for ejection, as the transverse E field would again tend to eject the electrons sideways. Hence, the most likely ejection direction for a solid plate experiment would be somewhere in between 0^o and 90^o.

The maximum velocity would again be dependent on a non-acceleration resonance, just like in the photoelectric effect. The maximum energy might not go as hν, as higher harmonic resonances are probable, reducing the velocity. However, once this velocity is known, then the change in x-ray wavelength would simply be due to a Doppler shift, as the receding electrons reflect the incident x-rays, shifting the frequency towards the red.

Let's try this out and see how this works. The max ejection velocities are known. The max velocity found for ejected electrons is approximately .07c for Compton's Experiment. (See Recoil Electrons From Aluminum). We will take the average velocity to be approximately .05c, for a rough estimate. Also as a rough estimate to see if we are in the ballpark, we will try 45^o as the most likely ejection angle.

We wish to find the resulting retransmitted wavelength using the Doppler formula:



Now the electron would continuously Doppler-shift the incident wave, from no frequency shift at the beginning of its acceleration, to a maximum shift in frequency at its final velocity (at the end of its acceleration). Thus, the retransmitted wave’s frequency shift would be a broadened spike. The center of the spike would be associated with some electron velocity in between its initial and final velocity, and not the electron’s final velocity. We will make the reasonable assumption that the average retransmission velocity of the pulsating electron is ½ its average final velocity (again for a rough estimate).

So finally, we have a rough estimate for the Doppler shifted wavelengths:



Not a bad rough estimate (obviously, we could change our very rough assumptions to match the data. We will avoid this, as to not be hypocritical, but some combinations give exact results.)

However, if one changes to a metal vapor target, instead of a metal plate target, things would really change. This would allow transverse ejections, changing the character of the Doppler Shift. It would be very interesting to redo this experiment with a vapor target to see if the Compton wavelengths change. The QM prediction would stay the same.

In addition, polarizations could be considered. For Compton's experiment, if the x-rays were vertically polarized, then the ejections would no longer be in the Compton plane. This would change things. It would be easy to make predictions on how this would change things with this New Theory.

For horizontal polarizations, the ejections would tend to stay in the Compton plane. It would be interesting to do an electron velocity distribution experiment for the Compton electrons to verify these polarization predictions. QM would not make such electron velocity distribution predictions, because QM treats this phenomena as a collision instead of a transverse force ejection. Here, Qfwfq, is where I would like to see your QM Compton polarization results.


Andrew A. Gray