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Old 07-19-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb How soon will a moneyless society change the way we percieve each other?

There is a current theory, that by adopting an open mind and a moneyless society that we can end the current round of disasters we call life. That by bringing ultimate logic to the myths and fantasies that comprise religious beliefs, that we can end the schisms that separate men from their brothers and sisters and bring about the required conditions of open mindedness that are required for mankind to move into the next stage of our evolution, to a peaceful, loving species, at one with our environment.
If you fully understand and appreciate to what I am refering, I would be most interested to hear your views.
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Re: How soon will a moneyless society change the way we percieve each other?

You might want to start with a description of your definition of a "moneyless society"... We've had a few discussions about it around here and many have devolved around widely divergent definitions of the term...

What do you mean I have no money? I still have checks,
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Lightbulb Re: How soon will a moneyless society change the way we percieve each other?

It has been said that money is the root to all evil,
I think is a true statement sense I don't have any,
if we had a money less society would it bring the world to the next stage of our evolution, to a peaceful, loving species, at one with our environment and the end of the myths and fantasies that comprise religious beliefs?
well if this was a money less society everyone on the same page as it wore.

I'm open minded, where are we going
is this the road you were taking?


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Re: How soon will a moneyless society change the way we percieve each other?

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You might want to start with a description of your definition of a "moneyless society"... We've had a few discussions about it around here and many have devolved around widely divergent definitions of the term...

What do you mean I have no money? I still have checks,
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Hi Buffy, When I refer to a truly moneyless society, I mean a way of life which does not weigh the worth of a human being in money or property, but treasures that person simpy because he/she is a human being and as such, a member of, potentially, the most evolved species in the known universe.
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Re: How soon will a moneyless society change the way we percieve each other?

So what do you see as the obstacles for getting to the point where society "treasures that person simply because he/she is a human being?"

How close are we?

What do we need to do to get there?

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Thanks for your question Doug, Money is the root of most evil, and that's not a misquote, it's a fact. Take away money and you end most forms of crime, and I hope you'll agree, that isn't a bad goal to aim for initially. The trick is, to work out how to remove money from human experience without causing any more suffering to humanity. In fact, the real trick woud be to remove money from human experience, and for humanity to be really pleased about it!

Fortunately, the trick is a very simple one, with no trap doors, mirrors or invisible beings whispering in our ears.

Just a generous helping of good old fashioned common sense and straight talking, combined with tons of love and a commitment to spending our future in a better place, right here on earth.

Best regards to you and yours Doug, from me and mine.

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So what do you see as the obstacles for getting to the point where society "treasures that person simply because he/she is a human being?"

How close are we?

What do we need to do to get there?

Questions, questions, questions,
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Hi Buffy, Please don't worry, I like your questions, they are pertinent and well phrased. I shall try to do at least as well with my answers.

For your first question, The only obstacle to that point is the current state of human thinking. We have been conditioned from before our birth to believe that there is no other way to live life here on Earth than what we currently have. I disagree. I believe that by logically disproving and changing these basic beliefs, that we can progress extremely rapidly to the point where we will be mentally 'catapulted' into our next stage of evolution. That is a large part of this change, being open minded enough to question our present customs, practices and beliefs, and being even more open minded enough to be prepared to re-think our whole way of life, for the better...and I don't mean slightly better, I mean a quantum leap better.
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Thanks for your question Doug, Money is the root of most evil, and that's not a misquote, it's a fact. Take away money and you end most forms of crime, and I hope you'll agree,
Well lets see, Rape, domestic volince, child abuce, druge lelated crims.
but we can talk about these latter if you like.


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So what do you see as the obstacles for getting to the point where society "treasures that person simply because he/she is a human being?"

How close are we?

What do we need to do to get there?

Questions, questions, questions,
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Best regards to you and yours Doug, from me and mine.
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Re: How soon will a moneyless society change the way we percieve each other?

Hi again Buffy
As to the second question, we are very close. The document is written, the rules are written, and very simple. I think these ten will make much more sense to humanity than the previous ten.

As to the third question, I have to send you this document. it is a word document of about 65 pages. If the whole of humanity can get to hear this message, and read and fully understand this document within the next three months, this will begin in three months and one day. That is how powerful this document is. There is nothing in it which will ultimately be to the detriment of any human being on this planet. It is the blueprint to a way of 'being' on this planet which will stand mankind in good stead for the rest of our existence. I guarantee it. Unconditionally.
So I suppose the short answer to question 3 is, we have to be prepared to change our opinions.

Best regards to you and yours, Buffy, from me and mine.

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Well lets see, Rape, domestic volince, child abuce, druge lelated crims.
but we can talk about these latter if you like.




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Hi again Doug, Well, lets talk about the crimes you mention. Firstly, drug production and trafficking would end extremely repidly, because with no money to be made by producing or supplying drugs to the general poopulation, what motive would anyone have to do it? (except possibly for existing addicts who had access to the raw materials and knowhow to make enough for their habit?). As to the rest, another vital ingredient of the society I foresee is to end violence in all its forms. Violence will be the only crime anyone will be able to commit, and I predict that within 7 days of the introduction of this way of thinking, the vast majority of the crimes to which you refer will just stop. They will stop because we will see each other very differently, we will see every single human being on this planet as family. This is a small part of the evolution I am referring to.

The usual to you and yours Doug, all the best!

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