Different form of 'reincarnation' ?..

[tmaromine]

Yes, that makes sense, but does it apply ?..

If both CDs had a consciousness, the microwaved CD'd obviously be dead, but, say another CD comes along and there's again two CDs, and this new CD replaces the 'viewpoint' of the microwaved one –*it sees the world the same way (like, if there were only two conscious CDs in the world, one red and one blue, the blue microwaved one would be dead, and the new CD would replace the dead blue one as another blue one, thus seeing the world – as a different being – as blue just like the last one..)..

I'm not speaking physically here, but mentally, just not in the everlasting-soul sense.

[nutronjon]

We can not be sure what God is, nor are we absolutely sure about what matter is. If we have an eternal soul, I think it would be like a neutrino.

It is well known that there exist extremely high energetic particles in the Universe with energies up to 10^20 eV. How they are produced and how they propagate in the Universe have been a puzzle for a long time. Recent experiments suggest that these particles come from outside the Galaxy. More detailed understanding of their origin will require detecting many more particles. It may also be necessary to observe the production process through other windows. Nucleons and nuclei lose their energies in less than 100 Mpc through interactions with the cosmic microwave background. Furthermore, intergalactic magnetic fields can bend their trajectories, masking their sites of origin. Gamma rays are even more limited in pathlength due to electron pair production when they collide with radio photons.

In this regard, neutrinos have uniquely advantageous characteristics: they can penetrate cosmological distances in the Universe and their trajectories are not deflected because they have no electric charge. They carry information about extremely high energy (EHE) production processes, even in the early Universe. It is therefore important to understand the possible processes for producing EHE neutrinos and to consider the possibilities for detecting the predicted flux resulting from several different models.

UHE Neutrinos from CR

I like the explanation of CD's. The blue ones are boys and the red ones are girls, right? A homosexual is one that carries information from a past incarnation, and decided to expereince an incarnation as the opposite sex. Because we could not have truly new experiences, if we remembered our past incarnations, we enter with clean CD's (brain tissue), but the neutruno (our soul) retains all the information.

[Turtle]

I heard Michio Kaku on the radio this week talking about subjects in his new book Physics of the Impossible, and the idea of 'who' is 'you' came up in relation to a human using a transporter as in Star Trek. Kaku believes human teleportaion is theoretically possible (but requiring a receiver unit unlike Star Trek) and it in effect destroys the 'you' leaving and makes a new 'you' arriving. He seemed to think a soul hasn't any degree of freedom in all that.

He talked about time travel by people to the past as theoretically possible, but maintained the many parallel worlds view prevents such paradoxes as going back to kill your parents. Here again, you return a 'different' person from a time-travel because you get back to a parallel universe, but not the exact one you left from, and 'you' is now a reincarnation.

[tmaromine]

Originally Posted by nutronjon

We can not be sure what God is, nor are we absolutely sure about what matter is. If we have an eternal soul, I think it would be like a neutrino.

I like the explanation of CD's. The blue ones are boys and the red ones are girls, right? A homosexual is one that carries information from a past incarnation, and decided to expereince an incarnation as the opposite sex. Because we could not have truly new experiences, if we remembered our past incarnations, we enter with clean CD's (brain tissue), but the neutruno (our soul) retains all the information.

I actually just arbitrarily chose two colours. But I think I can elaborate the idea further with sexual orientation since you brought it up.

Say the old and dead blue CD was homosexual, and the new and living blue CD is heterosexual. Now, they're both different – if you want to get souls involved then, they have two different souls – but they *see* the world the same, because they both perceive the world in a blue hue. Not only are they blue, they see with a blue bias. These two different-oriented and completely-unrelated CDs have the same perception 'just because' they're blue and see with blue. If the dead homosexual blue CD were reïncarnated into a red CD, then it would have the same 'soul', but a different perception of the world, because it now sees in red.

I believe I understand your neutrino = soul concept, but what I'm implying with this concept I've thought of is that there is no soul, simply 'different colours are reüsed', just not the minds/people/souls.

Originally Posted by Turtle

I heard Michio Kaku on the radio this week talking about subjects in his new book Physics of the Impossible, and the idea of 'who' is 'you' came up in relation to a human using a transporter as in Star Trek. Kaku believes human teleportaion is theoretically possible (but requiring a receiver unit unlike Star Trek) and it in effect destroys the 'you' leaving and makes a new 'you' arriving. He seemed to think a soul hasn't any degree of freedom in all that.

He talked about time travel by people to the past as theoretically possible, but maintained the many parallel worlds view prevents such paradoxes as going back to kill your parents. Here again, you return a 'different' person from a time-travel because you get back to a parallel universe, but not the exact one you left from, and 'you' is now a reincarnation.

He's fascinated me, with the few science shows I've watched with him.

Now here'd be a perfect place for a (free?) soul to exist – imagine 'linking' souls from one body to another, as to make teleportation work. If the whole divine world is [were] real, then souls are able to leave bodies, so basically the physical body could be cloned, and the soul relinked and voilà...

Anyway: would the 'you' who has time travelled be reïncarnated, or rather, cloned ? When I think of reïncarnation, I think of a new generation, or a new person with a past's experience. But I guess it could be said that a posttimetravel person would be reïncarnated, since they'd have their past self's experience and would be the 'second generation' of the person, it's just that they'd look the same, which perhaps is the only argument for it being cloning...