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I reread your post and agree it is not the crust, but the inner mass movement caused by earth's rate of rotation that causes the earth to bulge. But the geodesists who made the calculation only took into account the acceleration of gravity in the earth's surface as countering earth's flattening. When I trigonometrically calculated the gravitational accelerations at work at descending depths within the earth, I ended up with another acceleration (horizontal) that had never been calculated or incorporated into the PREM model. My vertical accelerations match those incorporated in the RREM.
In addition, for earth to bulge it would have to overcome surface tension whose force is F=S2C. C being earth's circumference, S being the value of surface tension and 2 being an accounting for both sides of the bulge.
So I'm stuck with a dilemma. I've asked for a review of my way of doing the calculations, but thus far all I've gotten are postings of textbook information that I have long ago read.
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Lemit brings up an interesting impunement of my character that leads to a problem associated with belief systems. All belief systems have their tenents documented in books. Right or wrong once written down they take on a aura of authenticity. When the belief system is questioned the adherents immediately bring forth the BOOK to prove their belief system. Scientists are not immune to this practice. If you look back through your textbooks and separate scientific fact from theory, you will discover that what we think we know about earth's formation is all predicated on the geodesist's insistence that earth must have a low moment of inertia. What follows after the geodesist's mathematics are taken as fact is earth scientists pile one theory upon another just to get their earth model to comply with the low momemt of inertia dictated by the geodesists. I am convinced geodesists errored.
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Some two hundred years ago, scientists longed to break free from Church control. To break free, they needed to unseat the Church approved, cold-core cross section that had been taught for over 5000 years. The sleight of hand they devised was so well disguised even the Jesuits, who the Pope directed to derail their efforts, could find no fault in their logic. In time, the Jesuits came to teach the scientist’s view. Today, we perpetuate the scientist’s sleight of hand every time we teach gravitational forces at work within Earth.
I can't speak to the physics, but in that quote you seem to question the motives of all modern physicists. You reduce science to an anti-Papist parlor game (or sleight of hand) that has fooled the Jesuits, whose directive from the Pope I assume you've seen, and everybody else who teaches physics, but doesn't fool you.

By demeaning others' research and their motives, you impugn your own character beyond my capability.

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...Throughout this thread, I’ve been struck by the strangeness of Cold-co’s considering the force of gravity on a body in neither of the two common ways: as a single net force vector (which, close to above or below the Earth’s surface, is nearly toward its center), or as a large number of vectors between the body and a collection of point masses representing the Earth’s body (in “A brute force calculation”, I used about 1,000,000. Ideally, one should use a point for every massive fundamental particle, though using merely one for each atom – about 1050 should be good enough )

If there are no objections within 24 hours, I’ll close this thread.

Except in cases of extremely offensive or illegal activity-promoting posts, we don’t as a policy erase hypography threads.
it has been 48 hours and i move that the thread be closed as suggested.


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I second the motion. I'm not aware of any demonstration of horizontal gravity or the answer to my question:
"Any miners in a deep working mine ever report pulling a rock off the wall and having it cold on the other side?"
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