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This is an idea I have long wondered about, did disease brought in by Homo sapiens wipe out the Neanderthals?


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This is an idea I have long wondered about, did disease brought in by Homo sapiens wipe out the Neanderthals?


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Heck, we decimate our own species as we migrate around; it only makes sense, eh?
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Were Neanderthals already poised for extinction before humans showed up?

Neanderthals Were Few and Poised for Extinction

Neanderthals Were Few and Poised for Extinction | LiveScience


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Human Stabbed a Neanderthal, Evidence Suggests

Newly analyzed remains suggest that a modern human killed a Neanderthal man in what is now Iraq between 50,000 and 75,000 years ago. The finding is scant but tantalizing evidence for a theory that modern humans helped to kill off the Neanderthals.

The probable weapon of choice: A thrown spear.

The evidence: A lethal wound on the remains of a Neanderthal skeleton.

The victim: A 40- to 50-year-old male, now called Shanidar 3, with signs of arthritis and a sharp, deep slice in his left ninth rib.

Human Stabbed a Neanderthal, Evidence Suggests | LiveScience


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More on the demise of the Neanderthals

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Paleoanthropologists know more about Neandertals than any other extinct human. But their demise remains a mystery, one that gets curiouser and curiouser
The Mysterious Downfall of the Neandertals: Scientific American


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What was Lucy?

I have stopped calling knuckle-dragging, idiot Homo sapiens "neandertahal" as it seems it is a compliment.


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Australopithecus afarensis. See also Lucy's Story at the Institute of human origin at Arizona State. A very interesting multimedia piece on anthropology and Lucy's place in the human line can be seen at Becoming human.

Back to Neanderthals. The SciAm link provided by Moontanman are very informative and raises very interesting possibilities regards the demise of Neanderthals. I also found a list of 10 misconceptions about Neanderthal this morning at Top 10 Misconceptions About Neanderthals - Listverse From what I know on the subject it is relatively accurate. Interesting though is the comments below. It is just amazing how common it is for people to participate in discussions on subjects they have no clue about.

I can also recommend Brian Sykes' book "The seven daughters of Eve" mentioned by Maddog. Not exclusively Neanderthal, but a very good read from a DNA point of view.

The by Jean M Auel was mentioned previously. I stumbled across the first book, , during 1984 and has read all of them. I was impressed with the research done in making a fictional series of books sound like history on a day to day level of a Cro-Magnon woman. My interest in Anthropology have increase quite a lot since reading the books so I must confess the Neanderthal angle, I presume as being represented by Ayla's foster clan, has either escaped me or my memory is slipping due to age. Will have to re-read the series.

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More info on the whole "Did Humans and Neanderthals mate" debate!

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Modern man and Neanderthals had sex across the species barrier, according to leading geneticist Professor Svante Paabo.
Modern man had sex with Neanderthals - Telegraph

I can see it all now, a cave looking out over the river, a carpet of soft moss all over the inside of his cave, a mammoth skin full of water covered in furs for his bed, yeah allyoop was quite the lover boy! How could those Cro-Magon men have resisted


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He's "sure" and now he's "looking for data"...

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Well, I see it isn't likely we f***ed them out of existence, according to a recent study: Genetic study of Neanderthal DNA reveals early split between humans and Neanderthals.

As for the idea that we killed all of them because one Neanderthal was killed by a spear that might have been made by a homo sapiens, I'd love to defend any homo sapiens who might be accused of the killing. That kind of extrapolation always reminds me of Thor Heyerdahl, who in turn reminds me of:


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