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Re: The Nuclear Cycle that Powers the Stars

You have published this link before. You are supposed to give us *your* opinion on it. That might help to elicit replies from others.
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Hello Tomod

I discussed it with coldcreation. He said to post it to another post, so I did for further discussion.

Before I start to discuss the papers I would like to give people the chance to read them. Than we could discuss.

We have plenty of time. In due time I will give my opinion.

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I'd like your opinion on the following papers

Perhaps in a PM, or another thread.

I would like to give you an opinion (for whatever it is worth) about the papers you mention, but they are way off topic for this thread: Redshift z, and its interpretation within the cosmological context.

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Re: The Nuclear Cycle that Powers the Stars

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With all due respect, do you have any concept of how this forum operates?
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Hello All

I like your opinion on the following link

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Hello HC,

I'm away from my computer for a while. I can't download the pdf(s). Can you please post here the abstract(s) of the paper(s).

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Re: The Nuclear Cycle that Powers the Stars

Before you people turn this into yet another rant against our forums, let me point out something in our rules:

"Members may link to any other site that provides information that helps answer another member's question or is just of general interest to members of that particular forum."

You are, however, encouraged to explain *why* the content at that site is of interest, and *what* you want us to look for. You can't expect to spark discussion by just posting a link and say "Jump".
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"On the cosmic nuclear cycle and the similarity of nuclei and stars", O.Manuel, Micheal Mozina and Hilton Ratcliffe, Journal of Fusion Energy (in press 2006)
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Repulsive interactions between neutrons in compact stellar cores cause luminosity and a steady outflow of hydrogen from stellar surfaces. Neutron repulsion in more massive compact objects made by gravitational collapse produces violent, energetic, cosmological events (quasars, gamma ray bursts, and active galactic centers) that had been attributed to black holes before neutron repulsion was recognized. Rather than evolving in one direction by fusion, nuclear matter on the cosmological scale cycles between fusion, gravitational collapse, and dissociation (including neutron-emission). This cycle involves neither the production of matter in an initial “Big Bang” nor the disappearance of matter into black holes. The similarity Bohr noted between atomic and planetary structures extends to a similarity between nuclear and stellar structures.
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CONCLUSION Neutron-rich stellar objects produced by gravitational collapse exhibit many of the features that are observed in ordinary nuclei: a.) Spontaneous neutron-emission from a central neutron star sustains luminosity and the outflow of hydrogen from the Sun and other ordinary stars; b.) As a neutron star ages and loses mass, changes in the potential energy per neutron may cause instabilities due to geometric changes in the packing of neutrons (See the cyclic changes in values of M/A vs. A on the right side of Fig. 3 at Z/A = 0); c.) Spontaneous fission may fragment super-heavy neutron stars into binaries or multiple neutron stars, analogous to the spontaneous fission of super-heavy elements; and d.) Sequential fragmentation of massive neutron stars by emission of smaller neutron stars may resemble the sequential chain of alpha-emissions in the decay of U and Th nuclei into nuclei of Pb and He. The nuclear cycle that powers the cosmos may not require the production of matter in an initial “Big Bang” or the disappearance of matter into black holes. The similarity Bohr noted in 1913 [30] between atomic and planetary structures extends to the similarity Harutyunian recently found [15] between nuclear and stellar structures. The recent finding [38] of a massive neutron star (CXO J164710.2-455216) in the Westerlund 1 star cluster where a black hole was expected observationally reinforces our doubts about the collapse of neutron stars into black holes.
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Finally it should be noted that the elevated levels of 136Xe, an r-product of nucleosynthesis seen by the Gaileo probe into Jupiter [22], lend credence to Herndon’s suggestion [39] that natural fission reactors [40] may be a source of heat in the giant outer planets.
Thats one paper, there are several
Take it one at the time

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I'm also reading through your links above.
It looks like you know what you are saying.
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"On the cosmic nuclear cycle and the similarity of nuclei and stars", O.Manuel, Micheal Mozina and Hilton Ratcliffe, Journal of Fusion Energy (in press 2006)
Papers in PDF
http://www.omatumr.com/abstracts2006...gsInserted.pdf

Thats one paper, there are several
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I'm also reading through your links above.
It looks like you know what you are saying.

OK, thanks for posting the above info on the papers. I'll check out the full papers soon.

You could have posted that text in your initial post, thereby avoiding the warning by moderators.

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