Still no sunspots...

[Moontanman]

Hmmm, maybe it's the Sun Gods way of telling us it's time to take that trip to Mars while we can?

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Moontanman

Hmmm, maybe it's the Sun Gods way of telling us it's time to take that trip to Mars while we can?

i was referring to dd's post and the fact that it has nothing to do with the topic in the wildest stretch of my imagination. have we thrown off talking about science even in the remotest fashion here!!!??? are you all friggin nuts!!!! wtf!!!??? good grief.

[DFINITLYDISTRUBD]

Originally Posted by Turtle

i was referring to dd's post and the fact that it has nothing to do with the topic in the wildest stretch of my imagination. have we thrown off talking about science even in the remotest fashion here!!!??? are you all friggin nuts!!!! wtf!!!??? good grief.

Sorry mr turtle (actually solar spot/no spot seems to effect the northern lights with respect to how impressive if seen at all) also all are astronomic type thingies again I apologize for cluttering your space.....oh yeah an eclipse might make sunspot spotting rather fruitless as well...(yeah... I know... I'm a jerk )

quoted by turtle Originally Posted by DFINITLYDISTRUBD
I see hint of Polar Illumination....am I to expect brilliance should the rain finally let up here....also hear rumors of solar eclipse coming up (2 supposedly)....also aint there a meteor shower sposed to be round this time of year (prolly missed it but I ask anyway)....no sign of the sun here though so lookin fer spots is about as fruitful as a cement cherrytree

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.no sign of the sun here though so lookin fer spots is about as fruitful as a cement cherrytree

[DFINITLYDISTRUBD]

Originally Posted by Turtle

i was referring to dd's post and the fact that it has nothing to do with the topic in the wildest stretch of my imagination. have we thrown off talking about science even in the remotest fashion here!!!??? are you all friggin nuts!!!! wtf!!!??? good grief.

Nah just idiots....but we love ya anyways

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by DFINITLYDISTRUBD

Sorry mr turtle (actually solar spot/no spot seems to effect the northern lights with respect to how impressive if seen at all) also all are astronomic type thingies again I apologize for cluttering your space.

alrighty thens. maybe i won't eat the rest of your hand and take my satisfaction with the two fingers. maybe.

now you seem to imply that low sunspots result in more aurora, but it is just the opposite. i have an idea! let's look it up!

Sunspots, Aurora, and Magnetic Disturbances

The Aurora
The aurora borealis ("Northern Lights") and aurora australis ("Southern Lights") have been a source of myth and awe since ancient times. When sunspots are plentiful, the aurora become more visible from populated regions on the earth. There are always aurora in rings around the north and south magnetic poles. Only during periods of high auroral activity do people in the warmer land areas well away from the poles begin to see them. Then the Northern Lights are visible to much of the northern United States and Europe. ...

we'll get to the rest in good time; perhaps when i'm better fed and sporting a sunnier disposition.

[REASON]

Originally Posted by Turtle

.....sporting a sunnier disposition.

Good one, Turtle. That pun was spot on.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by REASON

Good one, Turtle. That pun was spot on.

thnx dude. just another aspect of my magnetic personality. we now return you to our regularly scheduled broadcast.

NASA - Deep Solar Minimum

Originally Posted by NASA

...In a way, the calm is exciting, says Pesnell. "For the first time in history, we're getting to see what a deep solar minimum is really like." A fleet of spacecraft including the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO), the twin STEREO probes, the five THEMIS probes, Hinode, ACE, Wind, TRACE, AIM, TIMED, Geotail and others are studying the sun and its effects on Earth 24/7 using technology that didn't exist 100 years ago. Their measurements of solar wind, cosmic rays, irradiance and magnetic fields show that solar minimum is much more interesting and profound than anyone expected. ...

[UncleAl]

BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | What happened to global warming?

Science 326(5949) 28 (2009) "What Happened to Global Warming?"

Graph from 1975 to 2009. 1999 to 2009 Officially averages to dead flat global temperature change with time. I eyeball the last five years as average decrease. The sun is dead quiet,

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/im..._predict_l.gif
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/bfly.gif

Uncle Al stands by his old predictions:: Remarkably cold and wet 2010-2012. Green Revolution stalls, a billion people starve. Enviro-whiners deny a solar minimum cooling trend is upon us. In theory Mauna Loa is sampling the "well-mixed" lower stratosphere dozens of times/day, and with great care to get honest numbers. In practice, there would be boxes aboard commercial long haul airlines to get spatial as well as temporal data across huge swaths of the planet at ~30,000 feet. Mauna Loa is 11,000 feet. One suspects a political component lubricating funding of a single selected site.

THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT, REDUX
Journal of Chemical Education 74(3) 316 (1997)
Trends in Carbon Dioxide
File:Mauna Loa Carbon Dioxide.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mauna Loa Observatory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is a substantial academic industry pontificating upon and simulating the effects of increased carbon dioxide concentration in air upon agriculture and forestry. In the real world, certainly in California downwind of densely populated areas and freeways near ground level, 100+ years into the mystic future arrived 20+ years ago. No detectable negative effects.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by UncleAl

Science 326(5949) 28 (2009) "What Happened to Global Warming?"

Graph from 1975 to 2009. 1999 to 2009 Officially averages to dead flat global temperature change with time. I eyeball the last five years as average decrease. The sun is dead quiet,


http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/images/bfly.gif

thnx al. i don't think i've run across a graph that uses the total area of sunspots rather than the number of them.