What exists beyond the known universe?

[lindagarrette]

Originally Posted by DStickler

But the values are there waiting... No matter where you are in the universe, the values, the final expression of the equations, are the same no matter how they are expressed.

Very well said. If we could not count on the universal laws, then all our scientific theories would be wrong. Math, as the language of science is the only way we can communicate with each other about our theories. So there can be no discrepancy.

[maddog]

Originally Posted by DStickler

The size of the universe has been calculated at 158 billion light years in diameter. Definitely causing an event horizon which we may never see past if the universe continues it's accelerating expansion.

Where did you get that number ? Would you provide a link or a source ? Please.

Maddog

[bumab]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...mber=1&catID=2

It's a good article, but it claims the diameter to be only around 92 billion light years.

[C1ay]

Originally Posted by maddog

Where did you get that number ? Would you provide a link or a source ? Please.

Maddog

Take a look at this article. This google. should provide some others.

[haselhurst]

Hello,
I am new here.
And I must admit to being surprised that people still take the Big bang seriously.
I write on the Wave Structure of Matter which, though not yet well known, is clearly the most simple language for describing reality, founded on One thing existing, Infinite Eternal Space.
The problems arise when we start adding things like time, particles, and fields to space (how are they all connected, as reality / matter is clearly connected across the universe).
Instead, we need to consider the Properties of Space - and if we assume space is a wave medium we find that we can explain matter 'particles' in terms of Spherical Standing Waves in Space. See;
http://www.spaceandmotion.com

For those interested in a perpetual infinite cosmology that really is very simple and sensible please see;

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Cosmology.htm

and this article (below) has good arguments from Halton Arp and Eric Lerner on some of the many problems of the big bang theory.
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Cosmol...ang-Theory.htm

Hope this helps,
Geoff

[maddog]

Originally Posted by haselhurst

... as reality / matter is clearly connected across the universe....

Can you say a little how matter (particles) are all "connected across the universe". I
assume you mean together. I am interested in that I am finding this as well and curious
of your thoughts.

Maddog

[haselhurst]

Hi Maddog,
You have a great image avatar - very similar to Spherical Wave Structure of Matter.
Would you mind if i copied it - used it on my website.

I am stressed about improving website at moment (it has recently jumped up in site stats and now gets about 15,000 page views a day) so I can't spend much time here. Sorry - just found this forum by chance searching cosmology - couldn't resist posting!

To answer your question very briefly.
Assume matter is a spherical standing wave in space - this is true of all matter in universe. Therefore, apply Huygens' Principle and it means that all that other matter's Spherical Out-Waves must combine to form our spherical In-Waves. Thus matter is large (structure of universe) not small (particle) - but we only see the high wave amplitude wave centers and have been deceived into thinking they are 'particles'. And obviously all matter is interconnected by spherical In and Out waves in One continuously connected thing, Space existing as a wave medium.

Very similar to Einstein's field theory of matter (he rejected concept of particles) - but more simple. i.e. from Einstein's continuous spherical fields in space time to spherical waves in continuous space.
Please see the links in my signature below for more info.
Thanks for replying (hope I am not rude in being so abrupt, i don't use forums much!)
Cheers,
Geoff

[maddog]

Originally Posted by haselhurst

Hi Maddog,
You have a great image avatar - very similar to Spherical Wave Structure of Matter.
Would you mind if i copied it - used it on my website.

Geoff,

I don't see how I could complain. I found this avatar here. It just represents my intense notion of spin
in the universe. I'm not sure I followed all that you said. I am intrigued. I will look into your website when
I can. I'm just digging into a borrowed copy of Kaku's new book, "Parallel Worlds".

Maddog

[maddog]

Originally Posted by C1ay

Take a look at this article. This google. should provide some others.

I read it. I'm going to have to digest how updated data from MBR yields a reliable size estimate
taking into account inflation. I find this deep.

Maddog