Solar System of Universes

[ryan2006]

Relativity allows for a universe to go from one side of spacetime to another. We look at our current understanding of the universe and say oh yeah it's expanding or it's circular because of curved space or that it is infinite without beginning or end. My idea of the universe is that there is a solar system of universes or many universes that follow an orbital pattern much like our planets revolve around the sun. It has also been my idea that our universe came through a wormhole that one of these universes that was in orbit suddenly went through a wormhole and exploded on the other side. Time and Space in this universe evovled to have life on planet earth and now we are questioning it's mysteries trying to solve a problem that we'll probably never solve to see into the past of the cosmos. Even with light speed processors we will only get to see the light coming towards our sattellites, observatories, and probes in hopes that we will get to capture a glimpse of what was happening light years ago. I believe it is the hope of many to see the day when we will be able solve some of these questions we ask. When a scientists observes matter dissappear or appear isn't that a sign that a worm hole exsists in a visual sense. I do not claim to understand a lot about physics or science I've read here and there came up with ideas because I understood the fundamentals of what someone else had said before me. I do not wish to confuse anyone's understanding but hope to clarify if at all possible.

[Harry Costas]

Hello Ryan

Worm Holes do not exist.
Until we have evidence to prove they do, than we work with the facts or assumed ideas.

When all things are equal and we have varies theories, the simplest theory is the one to go for.

Many people do not want to define whats in a Black Hole.

If we look at ulta dence objects that turn into Black Holes we could assume the makings.

see link
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...er_020410.html

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Harry Costas

Many people do not want to define whats in a Black Hole.

If we look at ulta dence objects that turn into Black Holes we could assume the makings.

Yeah... because that's the problem we've had all these years. A complete and udder lack of desire to figure it out. Why didn't I realize this sooner? Of course!


Gimme a break.

[Harry Costas]

Hello Infinity

It is difficult for many scientist to define whats in a Black Box.

Does not matter what they say or assume. At the end of the day. No one can see inside and therefore no evidence and thus no conclusions.

Like I said before, the only way we can study Black Holes is to study Ultra Dense matter such as quark stars, a step before a Black Hole.
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and you can have as many breaks as you want.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Harry Costas

Hello Infinity

I'm just gonna take a guess that you are talking to me here, and not a mathematical concept of increase beyond bounds.

Originally Posted by Harry Costas

It is difficult for many scientist to define whats in a Black Box.

So how do folks in the aviation industry do it? Don't they just remove it from the plane and plug it into some device set to interpret or summarize the data it contains?

Originally Posted by Harry Costas

Like I said before, the only way we can study Black Holes is to study Ultra Dense matter such as quark stars, a step before a Black Hole.

Actually... we can also study:
Gravitational Lensing
Galactic Jets
Accretion Disks
High mass x-ray binaries
Supernovae
Gamma ray bursts
Hypernovae
Mass, electrical charge, and momentum

...and any number of other things. But, yeah, I guess that studying ultra dense matter might help too.

Originally Posted by Harry Costas

and you can have as many breaks as you want.

Thanks, but since you're not my boss, I'd probably get fired if I did that.

[Harry Costas]

Hello INfinity

I did not mean a Black Box in a plane,,,,,,smile.

Its studying items in a Black Box that we are unable to open. Only by observing at its behaviour by shaking it.

And you are right about the additional links in observing Black Holes

Stay Cool.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Harry Costas

Hello INfinity

I did not mean a Black Box in a plane,,,,,,smile.

Its studying items in a Black Box that we are unable to open. Only by observing at its behaviour by shaking it.

And you are right about the additional links in observing Black Holes

It's InfiniteNow, and what does your statement about a black box mean? There are other ways to study it, and it's contents, other than shaking it, but I am more curious how this applies at all the topic of this thread, and further, why the box has to be black?

You've already been asked by the moderators of this forum to provide support for your statements. Since you have not done so, I've decided to attempt to show you why your statements seem so false and inaccurate.

And thanks, I knew I was right or I wouldn't have posted it to begin with.

[Harry Costas]

Hello Infinite now

A Black Hole is like a Black Box
We will never be able to see into it.

We cannot shake it.

So we have to observe it from its surroundings and the properties that it
shows. Also from its possible birth. By stydying ultra dense matter such as we find in Neutron stars and quark stars.


I'm more than willing to discuss what ever issues and usually I will support those issues, but not when its general.
A bit of lateral thinking is sometimes required.

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Harry Costas

A Black Hole is like a Black Box
We will never be able to see into it.

Never is a very very very long time.

In the US, people used to say that women would never vote too... Just because we ability to do so now is limited has no impact whatsoever on our potential abilities in the future.

Originally Posted by Harry Costas

I'm more than willing to discuss what ever issues and usually I will support those issues, but not when its general.
A bit of lateral thinking is sometimes required.

I appreciate the clarification. However, you should try using your own logic a bit here. You state that it's important to think laterally, yet you maintain that the only way to study black HOLES is to look at Ultra Dense Matter.


I maintain that, while this may be one way to garner additional information about black HOLES, it's clearly not the only way (which you acknowledged after I clearly demonstrated this in Post #35).

[Harry Costas]

Infinitenow

I think you are missreading what I'm saying.
Regardless, focus on Astronomy and not on silly matters.

I said

So we have to observe it from its surroundings and the properties that it
shows. Also from its possible birth. By stydying ultra dense matter such as we find in Neutron stars and quark stars

What do youthink I mean?
Next time do not put your own meaning into the words I say.

If you want me to respond to some issues I will on astronomy only.