Einstein-Rosen Bridge , Wormhole , Black Hole and White Hole

[kailas_knight]

hi InfiniteNow , you wanted proof about white holes you got it.....

as i have said before white holes are mathematically possible and runs backward in time.....as i said in my split 0 article..... the concept of white hole is indeed been derived from relativity...


The Einstein-Rosen Bridge
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zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/EinsteinRosenBridge.pdf

i'm sorry that i couldn't give the URL as hyperlink , i tried it but didn't work... a message appeared saying that i need to do at least 10 postings
before i could submitt links....


checkout the URL above to know more about what i have typed below ... i took a small portion of it from the link.....white hole is indeed derived from relativity and runs back in time as i said in my post before,thereby supporting my article..

proof
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The complete Schwarzschild geometry consists of a black hole, a white hole, and two Universes connected at their horizons by a wormhole. The name "black hole" was invented in 1968 by John Archibald Wheeler. Before Wheeler, these objects were often referred to as ‘black stars’7 or ‘frozen stars’. It was Austrian Ludwig Flamm who had realised that Schwarzschild's solution (called the Schwarzschild Metric) to Einstein's equations actually describes a wormhole connecting two regions of flat space-time; two universes, or two parts of the same universe. A white hole (from the negative square root solution inside the horizon) is a black
hole running backwards in time. Just as black holes swallow things irretrievably, so white holes spit them out. However white holes cannot exist, since they violate the second law of thermodynamics8.General Relativity is time symmetric. It does not know about the second law of
thermodynamics, and it does not know about which way cause and effect go.
However we do. The negative square root solution outside the horizon represents another Universe. The wormhole joining the two separate Universes is known as the Einstein-Rosen Bridge.

[InfiniteNow]

This is a dupe... It was posted in the thread where the question was posed. Besides, my friend, you have offered an idea based on interpretation... still no *proof*.... <cough> ... evidence.

[kailas_knight]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

This is a dupe... It was posted in the thread where the question was posed. Besides, my friend, you have offered an idea based on interpretation... still no *proof*.... <cough> ... evidence.

Hi infiniteNow ,

i gave you the proof you asked. Because i haven't yet
posted 10 posts , i am not able to give you the link....but i did give you the url to the site .... if you would give me your mail id , i will send that file as an attachment to you ... either i will post the entire content with the Schwarzschild equation ,the negative square root of which proves the possibility of existence of white hole and -ve(alternate)universe or i will send
you the pdf file... tell me what i should do....

[kailas_knight]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

This is a dupe... It was posted in the thread where the question was posed. Besides, my friend, you have offered an idea based on interpretation... still no *proof*.... <cough> ... evidence.

here is that link i mentioned....this link contains what i mentioned about white holes.

http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetin...osenBridge.pdf

[durgatosh]

kailas_knight
as i have said before white holes are mathematically possible and runs backward in time.....as i said in my split 0 article..... the concept of white hole is indeed been derived from relativity...

Dear Kailas, since when did this become your article? The hypographers very well know that the concepts of split of zero and instability of zero were formulated in the article I had written in the thread, "The Origin of Universe: Solving the mystery."

White holes and wormholes indeed support the idea. But that does not give you the licence to take credit of somebody else's concept as yours. Yopu have done the same in your other thread "Origin of Universe???" I had even warned you in a private message, but you don't seem to understand.

I write this with anguish but I believe my fellow hypographers will understand and do something to prevent such duplication. It takes much effort to formulate a concept and it pains to see somebody suddenly taking credit of one's efforts.

DP

[InfiniteNow]

DP,

Thanks for the clarification. I do not generally care who is presenting an idea, but I do think it very wrong to represent someone else's work as one's own.

That said, reading the article I stopped at the following quote, and am troubled by it's firmness (w/o supporting evidence to which I'm aware):

The negative square root solution outside the horizon represents
another Universe.

Would the real slim shady please stand up and clarify how this assumption was reached? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary... well, you know.

Also, white holes seem to violate the 2nd Law of thermodynamics (entropy of a closed system increases), and go away as soon as matter falls into a black hole. I don't negate the possibility, but will (personally) require much more solid foundation for these ideas before I offer my acceptance of them.

[kailas_knight]

Originally Posted by InfiniteNow

DP,

Thanks for the clarification. I do not generally care who is presenting an idea, but I do think it very wrong to represent someone else's work as one's own.

That said, reading the article I stopped at the following quote, and am troubled by it's firmness (w/o supporting evidence to which I'm aware):


Would the real slim shady please stand up and clarify how this assumption was reached? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary... well, you know.

Also, white holes seem to violate the 2nd Law of thermodynamics (entropy of a closed system increases), and go away as soon as matter falls into a black hole. I don't negate the possibility, but will (personally) require much more solid foundation for these ideas before I offer my acceptance of them.

everyone ,

please note that i haven't stolen anyone else's idea....

what's the matter with you guys..? split 0 article is indeed durgatosh's aricle.... but in his article he did not give clear explanations to some of the contradictions associated with that theory..... wheras i did... i made and added some modifications to his concept ....

when i saw his concept , i even congratulated him...but in that article he mentioned some contradictions to that concept... i gave a little mathematical modification to his article..

but how can i present my modifications to that concept without specifying the central idea of the concept?...

durgatosh , if i were you , i would have atleast congratulated you for modifying that concept... i only specified his concept in my article to provide the central idea of the modifications i made...

and also honestly , i did not know that you also had posted an article about worm hole sand white hole , until you told me about it....

that's all....