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Published by Jay-qu 01-10-2008
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Earth Prince
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01-11-2008
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| Re: Hubble Finds Double Einstein Ring the universal shape so far as our cosmos is concerned is the sphere. why should all forms that we see in the universe have the shape of a sphere. I think the sphere is the creation of gravitational forces which seek the center of the sphere. In the center of the sphere is the black hole, the center of gravity in the sphere under consideration. A question I want to ask the forum is that if there is a law of gravity pushing everything into a common center, then shouldn't there be a counterbalancing force, the law of levitation? If there was only gravity, then everything will collapse into a common center. What force makes water vapour to rise? Ladies and gentlemen, it is time man begun to tap the force of levitation, the counterpart to the force of gravity. thank you |
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freeztar
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01-11-2008
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| Re: Hubble Finds Double Einstein Ring Quote:
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#4
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Earth Prince
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01-11-2008
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| Re: sphere Thanks for your useful comments about gravity. - about the sphere - most if not all planets and their satellites have spherical shapes. motion may give some objects like galaxies spiral shapes with many arms but when you take a map of the galaxy you will see that it is a flattened sphere in rapid motion. put some water in your palms and sprinkle it in the air and you will see spheres of water rise out of your hand before falling on the ground. Can we call the sphere the default shape? The reason for this spherical shape is that gravity in any body seeks a common center - or should I say drives mass to a common center. As someone said, there are many other forces in motion like levitation which drives substance away from the common center and the various other counterbalancing forces - like cyclical motion. |
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#5
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freeztar
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01-11-2008
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| Re: Hubble Finds Double Einstein Ring Levitation is not a force, it is a process. Levitation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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#6
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Pyrotex
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01-11-2008
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| Re: sphere Quote:
There really is no such thing as a "default" shape in the Universe, if you mean a shape that is taken if no other forces or processes are at work. Random swirls and filaments can be seen everywhere just as often as spheres. Consider the shape of a tree. No, things take shapes for good reasons. Their history of forces and experiences determine their shape. If gravity is the dominant force over a collection of matter, then most forces on that matter will tend to be in the direction of their common Center of Mass (which can be calculated). This will always tend to make the collection more spherical, not less spherical. As for beads of water, it is a different force: Surface Tension. At the border between water and air, the water molecules pull on each other like rubber bands. The force is not "to the center" but along the surface. However, this has the affect of trying to MINIMIZE the surface area of the blob. What is the shape with the minimum surface area for a given volume? A sphere. Spheres also come about out of random motion. Consider spherical galaxies. No one star is in a "spherical orbit". Most of them are in highly elliptical or chaotic orbits. Yet, ON AVERAGE, the placement of stars appears to be a sphere. It's just what you would expect, from statistics. The spherical shape is associated with attractive forces, surface tension, random distributions, minimum area, equilibrium, circular motion and symmetry. That's a LOT of good, solid reasons. But there is nothing "magic" or "default" about the sphere. | |
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Last edited by Pyrotex; 01-11-2008 at 10:42 AM.
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#7
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Tormod
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01-14-2008
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| Re: sphere I think the basic mistake is assuming that the universe is spherical simply because large-scale objects tend to appear spherical. At the really huge scales they don't, however. Look at superclusters, for example...just endless walls of galaxies and space. The *observable* universe appears spherical, which can be easily explained, while we have absolutely no proof as to the shape of the entire universe (if we can claim that the phrase "entire universe" has a meaning at all...). ![]() |
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