Parasites

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by palmtreepathos

and scabies (twice in one year!) from cow manure gotten at a local dairy.

What a gross frightening thread.
I have been collecting fresh cow manure from a local farm.
Never knew you could catch anything from it -yuck

The Herbalist & the Hippy
I once enrolled in a course in a herbalism conducted by an excellent herbalist. He was always very task centred so I used to try and distract him a bit and he would tell great stories about his patients.
One day grootty, long haired, spaced out hippy came to see him.
He had been felling very un-well since travels to Katmandu etc .
The herbalist thought he had Giardia picked up on his travels+ another fungal gut problem. So he prescribed the Hippy three drops of Tea Tree Oil three times a day and ushered him out as he was very busy that day.

Now all essential oils are anti-fungal but Tea Tree especially so. Probably comes from growing up in swamps. Like most essential oils it is very poisonous in large doses and nine drops a day is a massive dose.Equivalent to nine very large bunches of the whole herb.

Anyway after a couple of days the Hippy rang and said he 'din't know abo't this Tea tree oil' because it stung when he pissed and the place 'smelt like a f'rest'.
"So you are taking what I prescribed?" says the herbalist.
"O ye'r Three Tablespoons of Tea Tree Oil three times a day."
The shattered and shocked herbalist told him to stop the treatment at once- (as he should be dead)
The Hippy said "Good, I think its got rid of the giardia though'.
"I'm sure it has!" the herbalist croaked.
The Herbalist went off the make sure his professional Insurance-risk-policy was paid and up to date as the treatment could have cured more than Giardia.

[Michaelangelica]

euw, just looked up some links

This is my personal account of curing my asthma and hayfever by deliberately infesting myself with the intestinal parasite hookworm.

how??

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by palmtreepathos

I am grateful to not know the 6 that I didn't get right! The experience that I have had though are things closer to home than I would have suspected. An unnamed parasite of the malarial type (from mosquitos, nearby wetlands) and scabies (twice in one year!) from cow manure gotten at a local dairy. While researching the scabies I came across the magellons sites. These tiny little creatures wreak havoc with your neurological system and after you are exposed more than once the symptoms ramp up until you feel as if you are losing your mind. I can really sympathize with those who have advanced reactions to scabies and esp the magellons.
On the other side there are folks who can even think of doing this on purpose...
How to cure your asthma or hayfever using hookworm - a practical guide || kuro5hin.org

Wow, what a great read! I couldn't imagine going to Cameroon to intentionally infect myself.

[REASON]

I know this is a bit off topic and I apologize, but does anyone have any good ideas about how to rid my dogs/yard/house of these pesky fleas? I despise these little parasitic bastards. I can pick 25 to 30 a night off my smaller dog and then he spends the day outside the next day and he sucks a bunch more up like a magnet.

Do they tend to live all over the yard, or is there a particular area that they prefer such as grass piles, dirt areas, etc that he's probably wandering into?

HELP!

Any good ideas would be appreciated.

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by REASON

I know this is a bit off topic and I apologize, but does anyone have any good ideas about how to rid my dogs/yard/house of these pesky fleas? I despise these little parasitic bastards. I can pick 25 to 30 a night off my smaller dog and then he spends the day outside the next day and he sucks a bunch more up like a magnet.
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Do they tend to live all over the yard, or is there a particular area that they prefer such as grass piles, dirt areas, etc that he's probably wandering into?

HELP!

Any good ideas would be appreciated.

Eggs are laid in batches of up to 20 or so, usually on the host itself, which easily roll onto the ground. As such, areas where the host rests and sleeps become one of the primary habitats of eggs and developing fleas. The eggs take around two days to two weeks to hatch[1].

Flea larvae emerge from the eggs to feed on any available organic material such as dead insects, feces and vegetable matter. They are blind and avoid sunlight, keeping to dark places like sand, cracks and crevices, and bedding.

Flea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't recommend the following because it will nuke every insect, but I thought I should mention it:
Fleas,Outside Flea Control

Here are some more natural alternatives:
Flea Prevention

Good luck.

[palmtreepathos]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

I have been collecting fresh cow manure from a local farm.
Never knew you could catch anything from it -yuck

I have gotten manure before w/o a problem and both of these instances were from one batch, a forty pound bag, scooped up "fresh" for me. ewww
At the first instance it took 4 days for it to start itching, I had worked with a new composter adding weeds, leaves and manure over a good part of the day. I did not tie the occurance to the manure 'til I used the last of the manure 6 month's later, the crazy itching woke me up that night and many nights there after. Any coincidence that I had been in contact with the manure both times? I think not!
I wondered if I would have to remove the 200 pounds of compost I had made, by dragging the composter with the truck out into the creek down the street. In fact, I told someone I may have to move now. We had a very hard freeze before spring and that proved to kill them off. That is one of the non-chemical treatments for them, but it tooks months before I was comfortable using the compost even after testing it on myself. But so far so good....

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

The Herbalist & the Hippy
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Love the story and teatree oil is a favorite of mine....

about giardia I found this and would try it before conventional drugs, homeopathics have proven safe and work fast...
Traveler's Diarrhea (July 2004)

[Michaelangelica]

We are not the only ones that suffer from paracites.

Bee Expert: Insecticides, Climate, Malnutrition, Paracites And Microbes Collapsing Bee Colonies

ENN: Bee Expert: Insecticides, Climate, Malnutrition, Paracites And Microbes Collapsing Bee Colonies
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When does a human parasite stop being a parasite and a symbiotic relationship happens?

[Michaelangelica]

To Fight Disease, Animals -- Like Plants -- Can Tolerate Parasites

ScienceDaily (Nov. 7, 2007) — Animals, like plants, can build tolerance to infections at a genetic level,
. . .
Researchers were also surprised to find that tolerance and resistance are negatively related. The mice can either kill parasites or tolerate them, but they cannot do both.]

To Fight Disease, Animals -- Like Plants -- Can Tolerate Parasites

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by palmtreepathos

I wondered if I would have to remove the 200 pounds of compost I had made, by dragging the composter with the truck out into the creek down the street.

I'm hoping you are kidding, but in case not...



Please don't ever put compost (or pretty much anything) into natural bodies of water, or where it can be transported to natural bodies of water. Agriculture is one of the big reasons that so many of Georgia's streams (as well as other states') are listed as 303(d)/305(b) streams (fecal coliform and dissolved oxygen from nutrient loading). If you have any questions, don't hesitate to PM me.

As far as the scabies and manure goes, I would imagine there is not much of a link.

Originally Posted by CDC

By direct, prolonged, skin-to-skin contact with a person already infested with scabies. Contact must be prolonged (a quick handshake or hug will usually not spread infestation). Infestation is easily spread to sexual partners and household members. Infestation may also occur by sharing clothing, towels, and bedding.

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Once away from the human body, mites do not survive more than 48-72 hours. When living on a person, an adult female mite can live up to a month.

Division of Parasitic Diseases - Scabies Fact Sheet

So according to that, a manure sack that is left for 3 days should clear the bag of any scabies. So perhaps try to get it not so fresh. The only thing that makes sense in regards to manure is that the scabies are catching a ride from the cow and don't have time to die before finding their new host...you!

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Michaelangelica

We are not the only ones that suffer from paracites.

Indeed.
Fig Wasp

When does a human parasite stop being a parasite and a symbiotic relationship happens?

And from that link above...

Traditionally, medical writers have suggested that natural selection will lead to benign coexistence between parasite and host. That is, parasites that do not harm their hosts have the best chance of long term survival. When virulence occurs this is thought to be because the host and parasite have not been "togther" long. For example, in a new host of a disease-causing organism. But this ignores the fact that individual parasites are selected to propagate their own genes not to benefit their own species or the host. A high level of virulence may be the result of doing this, even in a long-established host-parasite system.

Much more info there...