Evolution is Fact

[Thunderbird]

Originally Posted by C1ay

Got a link? I couldn't find that definition in any reference I looked at.

I took a little semantic license, my bad, The total sum cognitive direction of a species though time as a whole. Human kind, rabbit kind.

[C1ay]

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

The total sum cognitive direction of a species though time as a whole. Human kind, rabbit kind.

Show us your proof that evolution is a cognitive process. There is no inherent intelligence in natural selection. Weak traits die, no intelligence required.

[ughaibu]

Originally Posted by CraigD

my guess of an answer is that “these people” traits don’t disappear because they don’t prevent individuals and their descendents from having many descendents

I'm not so sure. Genital mutilation is a widespread class of ritualised behaviour, generally subsumed by religion. The relative severity, of mutilation, seems to correlate with ecological conditions, suggesting that it succeeded, as a practice, by functioning as a contraceptive, ie harsh conditions that can only support relatively small groups, require the severest mutilations to keep the group's population viably contained. Similarly, one might expect the sexually obsessed religions from arid uncongenial regions, the Abrahamic religions, to function as contraceptives.

[Overdog]

Wow. Some of the posts I see in this thread seem to suggest that whatever selective pressure there may be in nature towards increasing intelligence, it must be very slight indeed.

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Overdog

Wow. Some of the posts I see in this thread seem to suggest that whatever selective pressure there may be in nature towards increasing intelligence, it must be very slight indeed.

Welcome Overdog.

Care to elaborate?

[Overdog]

The idea that genital mutilation as practiced by some cultures serves as a mechanism for population control does not seem very well supported by the evidence to me...didn't feel I could leave the thread ending on that note.

As I see it, all human beings are born ignorant, and perhaps humankind's most profound characteristic, even above intelligence, is a supreme gullibility which allows the rapid development of a belief system (without evidence) which nevertheless confers survival/reproductive advantage...but nature doesn't care what you believe...only that you reporduce.

To me the issue is no longer about the evolution of intelligence, but culture, and the never ending struggle against ignorance.

[Thunderbird]

Originally Posted by C1ay

Show us your proof that evolution is a cognitive process. There is no inherent intelligence in natural selection. Weak traits die, no intelligence required.

The advanced progession of communication systems.


1. Cell to cell communication based upon chemicals relations.
Results in multi-cellular organisms.
2. Species to species sexual communication based upon chemical and visual signals for higher species.
3. Chemical, visual , and auditory communications that relay to potential mates genetic qualities, strong traits.
4. Chemical, visual , auditory, and creative traits signaling to potential mates that the mating partner has not only strengths and energy to survive but has a surpluses of traits to adapt to changes.
5. Complex communication within social groups. exchange of information between group members on food sources, dangers etc.
6.And finally complex language, the biggest leap of cognition on earth that gave man the edge on any other species. Language allowed for an individual to relay complex information in detail that could be passed on as memes surpassing even genetics as a way to pass on information that would allow an individuals and groups to survive to pass on these specific cognitive traits.

[C1ay]

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

The advanced progession of communication systems.


1. Cell to cell communication based upon chemicals relations.
Results in multi-cellular organisms.
2. Species to species sexual communication based upon chemical and visual signals for higher species.
3. Chemical, visual , and auditory communications that relay to potential mates genetic qualities, strong traits.
4. Chemical, visual , auditory, and creative traits signaling to potential mates that the mating partner has not only strengths and energy to survive but has a surpluses of traits to adapt to changes.
5. Complex communication within social groups. exchange of information between group members on food sources, dangers etc.
6.And finally complex language, the biggest leap of cognition on earth that gave man the edge on any other species. Language allowed for an individual to relay complex information in detail that could be passed on as memes surpassing even genetics as a way to pass on information that would allow an individuals and groups to survive to pass on these specific cognitive traits.

Wow. It is astoundingly incomprehensible that you believe any of that and expect others to believe it too. I believe your understanding of natural selection is so poor that is irreparable. There is no cognitive communication involved in natural selection. Perhaps some of these sources may help with your studies.

[Thunderbird]

Originally Posted by C1ay

Wow. It is astoundingly incomprehensible that you believe any of that and expect others to believe it too. I believe your understanding of natural selection is so poor that is irreparable. There is no cognitive communication involved in natural selection. Perhaps some of these sources may help with your studies.

Your post reminds me of another: Deceptive and covert communications to avoid predation. For example The mimic octopus that fools predators by changing form to confuses onlookers. I have been studing science and evolution for over 30 years. I do not need basic definitions on natural selections, so you could do well to save you condescension for creationist.

[Overdog]

Originally Posted by C1ay

Wow. It is astoundingly incomprehensible that you believe any of that and expect others to believe it too. I believe your understanding of natural selection is so poor that is irreparable. There is no cognitive communication involved in natural selection. Perhaps some of these sources may help with your studies.

Ditto. You definitely need to read up on natural selection. Besides, communication is not evidence of cognition.