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The age revolution: How to live to be 150 Experts believe that the first person to live half way through their second century has already been born. Jeremy Laurance, health editor, reports on the stunning breakthroughs that science promises, while Sarah Harris outlines 10 ways to extend your life.
I've read elsewhere that that person is probably over 50 years old now (yay!!!) and rich (dammit!) |
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Originally Posted by Moontanman Why not practical immortality? I take these things seriously, at least the concept. I may never live long enough to see it but at some point or capabilities will be far enough ahead that we will seem god like to our ancestors (us) saying something is impossible is usually a good way to be wrong. We might not ever see these things but it doesn't hurt to speculate. | Yeah!
Take that Modest! | Ok  Quote:
Originally Posted by Gardamorg But wouldn't a ripe body help the brain function longer?
I didn't exactly mean immortality. | Yes, I think having a brand new body would help a brain get along much better and longer. I just think it's important to note that a human brain is built to last a lifetime - not multiple lifetimes. Swapping bodies solves the body problem, but we also need to think about the mind. I have a feeling a two or three hundred year old brain probably wouldn't even be able to keep a new body alive, much less contain any semblance of the person it used to be.
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Yes, I think having a brand new body would help a brain get along much better and longer. I just think it's important to note that a human brain is built to last a lifetime - not multiple lifetimes. Swapping bodies solves the body problem, but we also need to think about the mind. I have a feeling a two or three hundred year old brain probably wouldn't even be able to keep a new body alive, much less contain any semblance of the person it used to be.
~modest | It works both ways, you can make the body strong enough to adapt tons of movement from the slightest thought, you could make the body regenerate, fertalize, and strengthen the brain back to it's old self.
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Evolution is like logging into a computer, all you need is the password.
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Originally Posted by Gardamorg It works both ways, you can make the body strong enough to adapt tons of movement from the slightest thought, you could make the body regenerate, fertalize, and strengthen the brain back to it's old self. | I'm not aware of any mechanism that would allow what you suggest. This is beginning to seems like a thread for the Strange Claims forum rather than Biology.
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Originally Posted by Gardamorg Evolution is like logging into a computer, all you need is the password. | Evolution is a very hard concept to pigeonhole into a metaphor.
Your metaphor is over-simplistic, imho. Besides, what does evolution have to do with this thread?
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Originally Posted by freeztar I'm not aware of any mechanism that would allow what you suggest. This is beginning to seems like a thread for the Strange Claims forum rather than Biology. |
Advanced gene therapy can cause mutations that cause the body to behave such as this.
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Originally Posted by freeztar Evolution is a very hard concept to pigeonhole into a metaphor.
Your metaphor is over-simplistic, imho. Besides, what does evolution have to do with this thread? | Everything, without evolution all of this would have no purpose and no effect.
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Originally Posted by freeztar I'm not aware of any mechanism that would allow what you suggest. This is beginning to seems like a thread for the Strange Claims forum rather than Biology. | If a ripe body can cause a brain to last longer, than by that logic a body can strengthen a mind, and thats exactly what it does.
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Originally Posted by Gardamorg Advanced gene therapy can cause mutations that cause the body to behave such as this. | Please support your claim, with links preferably, that advanced gene therapy can "make the body strong enough to adapt tons of movement from the slightest thought, you could make the body regenerate, fertalize, and strengthen the brain back to it's old self".
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