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Old 07-17-2005   #11 (permalink)
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yep. and hypothetically, if they did have "souls" do they have a heaven too?
that is what i thought about in third grade and from that moment on i didn't believe in god.


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oh and p.s. since the soul is not a translucent entity that arises from our dead bodies and transports our legacy to a place called heaven, it is also not something that we RECEIVED. conciousness evolved. we still are.
O.K. But, from where did this conciousness evolve from?
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O.K. But, from where did this conciousness evolve from?
Do you know how evolution works? Over millions of years our brains evolved... I would argue that some of us are more conscious than others....


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Do you know how evolution works? Over millions of years our brains evolved... I would argue that some of us are more conscious than others....
Hi niviene. It has been argued, “Evolution vs Creation”. Sounds very much like the chicken or the egg story. But, what if evolution was indeed created? Would this mean that the "Creation" came first?
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Hi, Guadalupe. Everything is possible; however, some things are more probable than others, depending on your methods of reason. It is possible that creation alone is true; it is possible that evolution is true; and it is possible that a combination of the two is true. I lean towards the latter, but it's important to keep an open mind and consider all possibilities. Religion is a person choice, and what you believe is obviously very important to you - all that matters is what seems right to you.


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Hi niviene. It has been argued, “Evolution vs Creation”. Sounds very much like the chicken or the egg story. But, what if evolution was indeed created? Would this mean that the "Creation" came first?
Yes. One could rectify evolution with christian concepts of creation simply by saying "the way God created everything was through evolution." Thats all fine and dandy. There is, in fact, no way to argue away the possibility of an omnipotent entity beyond perception.
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...There is, in fact, no way to argue away the possibility of an omnipotent entity beyond perception.
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Not quite - consider:

1) God created everything.
2) 'Everything' includes not only matter, but space as well.
3) Nothing can exist outside of space.
4) Therefore, God, if He/She (I prefer 'It', the only reason God will have a sexual description, would be if there was a 'Godess' as well) exists, it would have to be in space.
5) Being omnipotent implies, by the very nature of the word, having infinite energy at your disposal.
6) The only thing with infinite energy (not quite, but the closest to) in the universe, is the universe itself.
7) Therefore, God is the universe, and the universe is God. They are inseperable.
8) Therefore, we as humans, are actually little bits of God. We might be God's brain, seeing as we are bits of the universe that can question the nature of the universe.
9) Then again, looking at Dubya, we might be somewhere close to the ultimate end of the digestive tract.

The point is, if there's an omnipotent being, we MUST be part of it, due to the very nature of the word.


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