Get it Straight

[Skippy]

Originally Posted by Boerseun

Depends on your problem, squire. If you need to build a bridge across a gulley, build a steam engine, build a rocket, send someone to the moon, call a scientist.
If your problem is of a more personal nature like "Why", call a philosophist. If you're feeling depressed, call a psychologist. Oh - heck - these are ALL scientists!
However, if you feel you've got too much pocket-change on a lazy Sunday morning, call a pastor.
Open your wallet
Boerseun

Ha Ha. Call a scientist to BUILD a bridge. Right. Design one, maybe (it can be doen without scientists though)...but build it? I know people with an 8th grade education that could build circles around a scientist. For the personal problems yeah you'd need a scientist - they're called pharmacist's , because that's all that those other scientists you referred to have to offer.

[Skippy]

Originally Posted by Boerseun

Meanings and values are subjective, and therefore only applicable to the individual they belong to. Boerseun

Meanings, maybe. But values? Values are the reason we have laws against murder, rape, theft, etc. Values are also the reason we have The Shriners Hospitals, the Jerry Lewis Telethon, The Red Cross, The American Cancer Society, and other charities that help people. Those are not just individual values but societal values which keep those laws in place and those entities intact as well as tax-exempt.

[Fishteacher73]

Originally Posted by Skippy

Ha Ha. Call a scientist to BUILD a bridge. Right. Design one, maybe (it can be doen without scientists though)...but build it? I know people with an 8th grade education that could build circles around a scientist. For the personal problems yeah you'd need a scientist - they're called pharmacist's , because that's all that those other scientists you referred to have to offer.

While one may not recognize the use of science; that does not negate it. A bridge CANNOT be built that does not follow the basic rules of science, from materials science, physics, etc. Just because he does not call it science does not make it " not science". W/o science and the aplication there of, we would still be unable to harness fire.

Are you a paleo-ludite Skippy?

[OpenMind5]

Originally Posted by niviene

Is the purpose of DNA to "mess up" once in awhile so that we have variations?

I personaly think that is what happened in the beginning. There was a mistake. And this mistake made a new various and so on and so on and so on.

[OpenMind5]

Skippy, this isn't the place to disscuss what u are....go to the loung and read my "recent debate thread.

OP5

[Skippy]

Originally Posted by Fishteacher73

While one may not recognize the use of science; that does not negate it. A bridge CANNOT be built that does not follow the basic rules of science, from materials science, physics, etc. Just because he does not call it science does not make it " not science". W/o science and the aplication there of, we would still be unable to harness fire.

Are you a paleo-ludite Skippy?

I believe you misspelled that...and the answer is no. I am anti-pseudo-superiority complex though. A felled tree can be a bridge across a crevasse or creek..what science would that take? What science did a beaver use to dam a stream? And what science would it take for someone to see the beaver's dam and reproduce it?

Harnessing fire? Lightning strikes a tree, the wood catches fire, someone puts the burning wood in their cave and puts more wood on it as needed. Your thick-skulled tiny-brained neanderthals supposedly did it. Are you calling them scientists? Come to think of it, the skull thickness...Hmmm

[OpenMind5]

Once again skippy...there is another thread about this topic. Take it to the "recent debate" in the Lounge

Op5

[Skippy]

Originally Posted by OpenMind5

Skippy, this isn't the place to disscuss what u are....go to the loung and read my "recent debate thread.
OP5

What are you talking about? The title of this thread is "Get it Straight." One Would think this IS the thread where correcting errant comments is allowed.

Sorry

[OpenMind5]

Skippy, The topic of this thread IS get it straight. But what u are talking about does nto belong in this THREAD! It belongs in another thread called, "Recent Debate" which you can find in the loung. Now if you wish to con. Posting in this thread...please keep it on topic.

*A frustrated*
Op5

[Boerseun]

Skippy, old buddy old pal:

You are flying off the handle because of me saying if you need someone to build a bridge, to call a scientist. You have refuted me and said quite rightly that the scientists are designers and not builders. I stand pettily corrected. However, even if I'm wrong, I think a reasonable person in his or her right mind, would have understood what I was trying to convey in my post. So - in short, get over it.

Subtlety comes at a price. Understanding it, is not cheap either.