[orbsycli]

I understand and fully acknowledge that most of the things i think about are not even in english!
they are occuring in my mind in such strange fashions that i have dedicated my life to finding new and better ways to say what it is that i really want to say.

Now, with that said,
there is something that i figured out in my head
one night visiting the nonordinary reality realm
described as follows:

THESE ESTIMATES ARE ROUGH, i havnt done that much research

it took roughly 2 billion years for life for occur
100,000 years for our evolved hominoid
about 10,000 for our conciousness
400 years for our society to evolve (agriculture, scientific revolutions, etc.)

looking at the nature of this evolutionary paradigm
its evident that we should be seeing this NEW evolution manifest itself
IN OUR LIFETIME
a NEW evolution
not the old, sterile, efficient way of evolution
but a new evolution of SELF
that stems from two types of information
digital and analog.

++++the digital being artificial intelligence

++++the analog being electro biology (the cloning of the organism)

and you link thedr two together with neurobiology.



in the old evolutionary paradigm
one organism would conquer the other
one would live, while the other would die off

but in the NEW evolutionary paradigm we would all exist as a mutually supportive grouping.

evolution now becomes an individual centered process, eminating from the needs and desires from the individual and not an external process, a passive process.

now imagine a neo human with a new individuality+
a new conciousness
this is only the begining of the new evolutionary cycle
because as the next cycle proceeds
the input is now this new intelligence
as intelligence pawns on intelligence
as ability pawns on ability
the speed changes
until what???

you reach a crescendo!
in a way, it could be imagined as an instantaneous fulfullment of human, and neo human potential.

it could be something totally different
it could be the amplification of the individual!
the multiplication of multiple existences!
parallell existences
now that the individual is not restricted by time and space.

these manifestations of neo humans COULD also be dramatically counter+intuitive.

these manifestations will be those of social adaptation:

parasitism, dominance, morality, war!!

These will be subject to deemphasis!
these will be subject to DeEVOLUTION!!

The new evolutionary paragidm will give us traits of truth, loyalty, justice, freedom, and this is what i hope to see.

Now, with all of that said......
I could NOT put this into words, when i thought of this concept.
I imagined an instant fulfullment of man, as we spun at infinite speed
as a species learning.

I watched a movie the other day that sparked my conciousness!
one that perfectly made sense about all of this
and it took OUR idea
and explained it for me
and now i have presented it to hypography to see what you guys think.

[orbsycli]

i would really appreciate any form of feedback because these thoughts are driving me crazy,
I feel like pacing around the roof of a tall building
just talking with my own short concrete echo
Gratzi!

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by orbsycli

...evident that we should be seeing this NEW evolution manifest itself IN OUR LIFETIME a NEW evolution
not the old, sterile, efficient way of evolution
but a new evolution of SELF
that stems from two types of information
digital and analog...
i have presented it ...to see what you guys think.

I think that you're on to something.
I think you may be right.
But will WE think this change is good?
Or will it be a blight?

Will it leave US strong and golden,
With skills and power and might?
Or will its coming replace mere US
With something we can't fight?

Will People Prime look back on US
As monkeys in the dark?
Will they appreciate the fact
That from us They did spark?

Will mega evolution leave
Any room for US on Earth?
Or will WE live on in newer skins
The parents of our birth?

[orbsycli]

pyrotex,
i could not have imagined a better unpredictable reply.

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by orbsycli

pyrotex,
i could not have imagined a better unpredictable reply.

thank you

[Turtle]

I understand I think the words you do not use Orby. I think it is like an egg, like a chrysalis, like a seed. They all look so nice in their egg-hood, chrysalis-hood, or seed-hood. Well formed, tensegretic forms with surfaces too varied to mention. Beautiful things by any other words. Yet, they must break away, & all in a sudden too! Breaking, cracking (all things crack in 3 did you know?), breaking open an acknowledged wonder before something even more new can grow.

It's not anything to fear. Don't children & adults alike huddle round to see the chicken's egg hatch, or the butterfly emerge from the chrysalis, or the seed sprout? It is something to draw closer to, not away from.

[Tarantism]

i think, pyro, the answer to your many questions comes with time. here is a few more.

will all of our family lines eventually evolve to psudo-humans?

depends, will current human and psudo-humans want to/be able to reproduce together?

will current humans freak out and kill all of the neo-humans "for our own good"?

turtle, you are right, its nothing to actually be afriaid of...but we cannot forget in this discussion that humanity and society fears the unknown, and the real answers lie in how people will react.

that is assuming that discrepencies between psudo-humans and surrent humans are noticed before we all just evolve without even realizing it. hehehe.

[Tarantism]

i wonder if monkeys ever consider the world the way we do,

[orbsycli]

You All Have No Idea What I Am Talking About

And That Is My Fault

[jkellmd]

Waking Life was a good movie, indeed, and that segment was one of the best. If you look at the rate of scientific and industrial progress, and the rate of cultural evolution made possible by human consciousness, the implications are pretty staggering. I especially like the dude's optimistic outlook regarding the de-evolution of primitive agressive traits. The globalization of citizenship, and general decrease in nationalism within industrial societies, is great evidence that this is happeining, IMHO.