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Question Why the pain?

_____This may sound a bit silly, but with the confidence that nobody knew facts from birth, i'm shooting this.

_____Why do i have a nerve cracking pain for the first couple of days when i work-out(heavy duty exercises) and after which even if i work with more weight i don't get any pain(and even if it does, doesn't last long)???

_____Anybody there to enlighten me?
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Re: Why the pain?

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When there is a need, the body reacts. You work out and it tears muscles. The body then rebuilds them stronger than before. Since they are stronger with each workout, the impact of the next workout is less severe, and also the body has sensitized and the response to healing happens more quickly with each iteration. Plus, your mind becomes less sensitized to the pain response, and it doesn't seem as severe as the first time.

Like a channel of flowing water... the more water that passes through it, the deeper the channel. So it is with healing post workout. Same with the pain, it's like a heavy drug user searching to find the same high they had the first time... it'll never happen.
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Lactic acid and flushing mechanisms.


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Re: Why the pain?

DOMS Dude...

Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness...

As your body neurologically adapts to the workload and the Muscles build in strength, size, and efficiency; there is less Soreness pain associated with the next workout, unless you use considerable more weight than previous.
which isn't recommended...
You're basically "Frying" your Motor Units, Sarcomeres, and Myofibrils...
and then they adapt with proper recovery techniques.

Give me more Details.....

Got my Exercise Physiology text next to me...
although I got to go to school shortly for more programming....


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Re: Why the pain?

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DOMS Dude...

Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness...
How about the old adage. No pain. No gain. This relates to everyhting in life.
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How about the old adage. No pain. No gain. This relates to everyhting in life.
And that explains this issue exactly how?


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And that explains this issue exactly how?
Was only adding a philosophical comment which I thought might be apropo. Excuse me for butting in.

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How about the old adage. No pain. No gain. This relates to everyhting in life.
True.
But not always the wisest thing

Taken to extremes, and there are plenty of examples, result in serious injury!!

There is a "Mental" or psychological pain threshold that must be crossed in order to "get better, stronger, faster, smarter"...
But pain in your body tells you 1. You are out of your comfort Zone.
2. You are really only damaging your body.

I am an Athletic Trainer, (...personal trainer, working on my ACSM certification; a *New Program!* )
I deal with this All the Time

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Re: Why the pain?

Actually the psyhcology behind pain is far more extensive than the physiology.
It is the prime mover for those in search of satori, for instance. I spent a year in a Japanese soto zen monastery. Every three months the monks go through an ordeal called a zen seshin. For one week you sat in lotus for a total of seventeen hours per day. Lotus cuts off the circulation to the legs. Oxygen starvation results and the pain is like the bends. The last five minutes of each 45 minute seating takes a month to drag by. One is left sitting in a sea of pain tjhroughout the day and half the night for seven days. The psychology is subtle - for it is self-inflicted punishment - one can get up from the tatmi mat, roundly curse the sanga and go home whenever one wishes. Only the stubborn remain seated in the zendo and politely listen to the roshi tell us that we are all shit machines. All I can say is Ouch! Ouch! Nobody got satori that I knew of, but we did end up with the inner rage gone and enjoyed marvelously serene thoughts.

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Actually the psyhcology behind pain is far more extensive than the physiology.
True MagnetMan.
You sound wise,well-traveled, and versed!
I am Glad you are a Member here...

There is a Desire and Will Power factor that you alluded to.
There is also Balance.
The Human Body is amazingly adaptable. (and fragile)

I am talking relatively sedentary Americans/people here. Most people lack the discipline and/or pain tolerance that is required for Satori.

Lifting too much, too often, with bad form/technique can Cause serious injuries such as torn muscles, tendons, disk-slippage, on and on...

Pain is necessary, but the type must be distinguished. Pushing yourself too far ,too fast, too soon is a recipe for Rehab!

Example: Torn ACL. You are a competitor. It hurts. You think playing through the Pain is Gain for you/team. wrong.

Example: You are Benchpressing. It burns. It hurts. You want more. Your stabilizer muscles give out. your mind pushes you. Your form goes crappy. You tear a Pec. You will be out for at least 6 months after surgery

Example: Boxing. you are getting pummeled. You refuse to quit. You take all the pain! You end up with concussions and broken nose.

I Know what you are saying MagnetMan.
The phrase should be reworded: "No physical discomfort, No gain"

Discomfort yes. To the point it Hurts! AAHHHH it Burns GOOD!!
Pain no. Response of the body telling you something is Wrong!

As usual, lots of people take "No Pain No Gain" LITERALLY, and they end up Injured... (I see it Constantly)
Like I said. There is a line. And I play Both sides


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