tell me one beneficial mutation example - if there is

[jasonparker]

i always hear the same examples; antibiotics resistance of bacteria, ddt , anemia examples…. These are all invalid. Just please tell me one valid example of beneficial mutation if there is. Also backup your example please. By the way i uggest you to check this before you write " The Collapse of the Theory of Evolution in 20 Questions" http://www.harunyahya.com/20questions01.php

[BEAKER]

I always wondered (logically of course), that; "if evolution were true, why would anything be the same?" I mean after all, if it all began as a total fluke of unequaled good fortune and imeassurable luck that life began in the first place from dead matter, in spite of the overwhealming odds against it; and that if it has indeed continued to blossom into the incomprehensible varriety and beauty that we see today because of random mutations that have unfolded into things being the way they are; isn't it far more likely that the world that we know should be filled with millions of "missing links" - not just a few. And of course there are none to speak of. (unless you include the Platipuss, and archeopterix - which would be like sayng that you are a missing link just because you may have red hair wheneveryone you know has brown.

But why don't you have three eyes? Or why dosen't your friend have only one nostril, (you can of course put any varriation you can imagine into this scenario) and why arn't these types of atributes seen all over the world in greater numbers than those of us who have been fortunate enough to end up "normal". These types of varriations shouldn't be enough to stop the propigation of such mutations, in spite of the deified theory of "survival of the fittest".

Instead we see nothing of the kind.

Instead we use for our "proof" that evolution is taking place; such weak examples as you have already cited.

[Tim_Lou]

a mutation of "Sickle Cell Anemia" is able to resist the deadly disease malaria:
here is the website: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/000527.htm


"Because people with sickle trait were more likely to survive malaria outbreaks in Africa than those with normal hemoglobin, it is believed that this genetically aberrant hemoglobin evolved as a protection against malaria."

this is a well know example of beneficial mutation.
i believe that there are more.....
its just a quick research.


"i always hear the same examples; antibiotics resistance of bacteria, ddt , anemia examples…. These are all invalid"
why would you call them "invalid", give supports plz...

by the way, the website I used is XXX.gov, no doubt that it is telling the truth.

[Tim_Lou]

freethinker is cccccccccccccomin....

[Tim_Lou]

here is a website about beneficial mutations on organisms:

http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoMutations.html

pretty interesting, maybe you wanna take a look.

"Changes in the substrate specificities of an enzyme during directed evolution of new functions."

"Evolution of a Unicellular Organism into a Multicellular Species
Starting from single celled animals, each of which has the capability to reproduce there is no sex in the sense that we think of the term. Selective pressure has been observed to convert single-cellular forms into multicellular forms. A case was observed in which a single celled form changed to multicellularity. "
nice one : P, it is actually being observed that unicellular organisms come together!

[Tim_Lou]

on the contrary, please provide proofs that actually contradict the theory of evolution.
lets take a look at it and we will have a discussion


(although it has been done many many times.....)

[IrishEyes]

by the way, the website I used is XXX.gov, no doubt that it is telling the truth.

This was the only part of your post that I laughed at, tim. (besides chuckling over you asking for proof...where have I heard *that* before? )The rest is presented in an outstanding way, good job!
But why do you assume that because it is a ".gov' site that it is correct. Do you mean to imply that the government is never wrong, or just that they wouldn't lie to us?

[Tim_Lou]

.gov websites are at least more educational and informative that other websites.

it contains general information rather than an opinion... so..

well, i should've said "less doubt that it is telling the truth" rather than "no doubt that it is telling the truth"

[Tim_Lou]

"But why don't you have three eyes? Or why dosen't your friend have only one nostril, (you can of course put any varriation you can imagine into this scenario) and why arn't these types of atributes seen all over the world in greater numbers than those of us who have been fortunate enough to end up "normal". These types of varriations shouldn't be enough to stop the propigation of such mutations, in spite of the deified theory of "survival of the fittest"."

imagine we have 3 eyes, one nostril, and your questions would become "But why don't you have 2 eyes? Or why dosen't your friend have 2 nostril?"

science is based on observations, not observations based on sciences.
science explains the observations, not non-exist obesrvations.

lets say 1+1=2
do we have to proof that 1+2 doesnt equal 2? or 1+3 doesnt equal 2? or 1+n besides 1 doesnt equal 2?

no, all we have to do to prove 1+1=2, is proving the equal one, not the unequal ones....
(my 50 cents : P)

[geko]

Originally posted by: BEAKER
I always wondered (logically of course), that; "if evolution were true, why would anything be the same?" I mean after all, if it all began as a total fluke of unequaled good fortune and imeassurable luck that life began in the first place from dead matter, in spite of the overwhealming odds against it; and that if it has indeed continued to blossom into the incomprehensible varriety and beauty that we see today because of random mutations that have unfolded into things being the way they are; isn't it far more likely that the world that we know should be filled with millions of "missing links" - not just a few. And of course there are none to speak of. (unless you include the Platipuss, and archeopterix - which would be like sayng that you are a missing link just because you may have red hair wheneveryone you know has brown.

But why don't you have three eyes? Or why dosen't your friend have only one nostril, (you can of course put any varriation you can imagine into this scenario) and why arn't these types of atributes seen all over the world in greater numbers than those of us who have been fortunate enough to end up "normal". These types of varriations shouldn't be enough to stop the propigation of such mutations, in spite of the deified theory of "survival of the fittest".

Hi

You're speaking of hereditary, yes?