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I need help learning

Time for me start exercising one of the main reasons I started poking around this place. I need a few suggestions as far as reading material.

I'm currently interested in primarily Cosmology and Particle Physics. I'm getting around well enough, but I'd like some material to start a "from the ground up" understanding of each, basically anything... basic. I've got a little better than high school understanding of algebra and a little less for geometry respectively.

I'm currently trudging my way through Brian Greene's "Fabric of the Cosmos", and Leon Lederman's "The God Particle." Both of which I'm easily understanding, if only for the fortuneate fact that neither one really uses much math and rather leans on imagery.

So my request is simply some novice level literature in these fields. Of course I'm very open to anything else you may feel I would also be interested in by comparison.

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There are lots of good books, but out of the ones I have read, the two that came to mind almost immediately are:

"The Magic Furnace," by Marcus Chown
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"Blackholes and Timewarps," by Kip Thorne.


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If you haven't read Stephen Hawking's book "A Brief History of Time", I recommend that one. His writing style is very easy to read and he does a good job of simplifying complex concepts.


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I’ll add a recommendation for “Fear of Physics: A Guide for the Perplexed” by Lawrence M. Krauss. Despite the title, it’s not really about fear or perplexity, but more, I’d describe it, a practical account of the role and importance of estimation in all the physical sciences.


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If you haven't read Stephen Hawking's book "A Brief History of Time", I recommend that one. His writing style is very easy to read and he does a good job of simplifying complex concepts.
That is a good one, but a number of the ideas he discusses are out of date. Still a useful read, just something to consider.

FYI - The same applies to my suggestion of Blackholes and Timewarps.
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The Quark and the Jaguar: Adventures in the Simple and the Complex Murray Gell-Mann


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Okay... I think I'm a total big dork, but I just finished watching this 8 part discussion, and I'm downright giddy.

You can learn a lot by simply listening to the exchanges of people more brilliant than yourself.


Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Steven Weinberg


Wow, indeed.
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Wonderful, thanks so much for the info, these should keep me occupied for a bit, I really appreciate the help, and any help forthcoming.
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If you really want to understand modern particle physics, unfortunately you'll have to delve into the math. Geometry and calculus are essentials, I'd recommend Calculus for the Practical Man.
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If you haven't read Stephen Hawking's book "A Brief History of Time", I recommend that one. His writing style is very easy to read and he does a good job of simplifying complex concepts.
Also recommend that one, as well as his briefer and expandier version: "A Briefer History of Time" (Not a substitute, its good reading though, as it helps with understanding some hard core models in the original book that were rather hard to get, as well as adding current day discoveries to the content of the original book)


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