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12-25-2008
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score einstien's puzzle i put up a challenge einstien's puzzle
on my laptop my score is 3 min 09 sec.
on a desktop it is 2 min 09 sec
mainly due to the reaction time of a mouse and its accuracy
in comparison to the touch pad on a laptop
good luck
(i play it like solitare)
peace
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12-25-2008
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Re: einstien's puzzle einstiens puzzle
this one has it or 3 platforms
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12-25-2008
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Re: einstien's puzzle mabe if you want to play
just post to have your name added to the list
(i have been playing for about 6 months)
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12-26-2008
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Re: einstien's puzzle alright whats the haps
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12-26-2008
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Re: einstien's puzzle
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12-27-2008
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Re: einstien's puzzle remember that if its in the center it cannot be oneither side
if its to the left i cannot be on the right side
and vice versa
and if its next to well, self defineing (ie. iv in second column ita cnnot be in the first
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01-04-2009
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Re: einstien's puzzle it is actually 2min 29sec on a desktop
i just looked it up on the computer i did it on
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01-04-2009
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Re: einstien's puzzle oops
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01-04-2009
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Sherlock, the Zebra Puzzle, the Fish Puzzle - logic puzzles in general Sorry to have ignored this thread for the past week
I get an “installer corrupt or incomplete” message when attempting to run the windows installer downloaded from Flowix Games, so haven’t tried the game yet. I found this copy of a game called “Sherlock”, which seems to be the same game, and finally gave it a try. I finished its first (and presumably easiest) game in an rather pathetic 13:58, though I’m sure I’d get quicker with repeated playing.
“Einstein’s puzzle” usually refers to a 5x5 (rather than Sherlock’s 6x6) logic puzzle called the “ Zebra Puzzle”, which, legend has it, either Albert Einstein or Lewis Carol claimed only about 2% of people could solve. Usually speed isn’t considered much in solving logic puzzles – an experienced logic puzzle solver typically takes 10 to 30 minutes, using paper and pencil or equivalent, much of the time spent organizing the attributes and clues, which computerized version do for you.
Some logic puzzles termed “Einstein’s puzzle”, such as the “Fish” variation, can be solved with a “single pass”, while the usual Zebra variation needs 2 guesses, each with 2 possibilities, so may need 4 trys to solve the puzzle.
Here’s a small MUMPS program that can solve the Zebra Puzzle, but not the Fish Puzzle – that is, can’t try guesses: Code: x X(1),X(4) ;X: logic puzzle solver
k B,D,BD s N=5,I="" f s I=$o(X(2,I)) q:I="" f J=1:1:N f K=1:1:N s V=$p($p(X(2,I)," ;"),",",J),B(K,I,V)="",BD(I,V)="",D(V)=I ;X(1): init B()
n (X,B,D,BD,N,XWR,C) s (C0,S)="" f s S=$o(X(3,S)) x X(5),XWR q:S=""&(C=C0)!'C s:S="" C0=C i S]"" s VV=$p(X(3,S)," ;") x X(4,$p(VV,",")) ;X(4): solve
s V=$p(VV,",",2),I=D(V),K=$p(VV,",",3) zt:'$d(B(K,I,V)) k B(K,I) s B(K,I,V)="" ;X(4,1): is in #
s V1=$p(VV,",",2),I1=D(V1),V2=$p(VV,",",3),I2=D(V2),KI=$p(VV,",",4) f K=1:1:N k:'$d(B(K-KI,I1,V1)) B(K,I2,V2) k:'$d(B(K+KI,I2,V2)) B(K,I1,V1) ;X(4,"="): is/is to left or right of
s V1=$p(VV,",",2),I1=D(V1),V2=$p(VV,",",3),I2=D(V2),KI=$p(VV,",",4) f K=1:1:N k:'$d(B(K-KI,I1,V1))&'$d(B(K+KI,I1,V1)) B(K,I2,V2) k:'$d(B(K-KI,I2,V2))&'$d(B(K+KI,I2,V2)) B(K,I1,V1) ;X(4,"+-="): is next to
n (X,B,N,C) x X(5,1),X(5,2) s C=V]"" x X(5,3) i C s Q="B" f C=0:1 s Q=$q(@Q) q:Q="" ;X(5): check for uniques & clean
s (K,I,V)="" f s K=$o(B(K)) q:'K f s I=$o(B(K,I)) q:I="" f s V=$o(B(K,I,V)) q:V="" s (C1,B1(I,V))=$g(B1(I,V))+1,B1(I,V,K)="",B2(I,V)=K k:C1>1 B2(I,V) ;X(5,1)
s I="",V=1 f K=1:1:N q:V="" f s I=$o(X(2,I)) q:I="" s V=$o(B(K,I,"")) q:V="" i $o(B(K,I,V))="" k B2(I,V) f KK=1:1:N k:KK-K B(KK,I,V) ;X(5,2)
s (K,V)="" f s I=$o(B2(I)) q:I="" f s V=$o(B2(I,V)) q:V="" s K=B2(I,V) k B(K,I) s B(K,I,V)="" ;X(5,3)
Here’s the data that defines the Zebra Puzzle: Code: Blue,Green,Red,White,Yellow ;X(2,"Color")
Brit,Dane,German,Norwegian,Swede ;X(2,"Nationality")
Beer,Coffee,Milk,Tea,Water ;X(2,"Beverage")
Blue Master,Dunhill,Pall Mall,Prince,Blend ;X(2,"Cigar brand")
Cats,Birds,Dogs,Fish,Horses ;X(2,"Pet")
=,Brit,Red ;X(3,1): The Brit lives in a red house.
=,Swede,Dogs ;X(3,2)
=,Dane,Tea ;X(3,3)
=,Green,White,1 ;X(3,4): The green house is on the left of the white, next to it.
=,Green,Coffee ;X(3,5)
=,Pall Mall,Birds ;X(3,6)
=,Yellow,Dunhill ;X(3,7)
1,Milk,3 ;X(3,8)
1,Norwegian,1 ;X(3,9): The Norwegian lives in the first house
+-=,Blend,Cats,1 ;X(3,10): The man who smokes Blends lives next to the one who keeps cats
+-=,Horses,Dunhill,1 ;X(3,11)
=,Blue Master,Beer ;X(3,12)
=,German,Prince ;X(3,13)
+-=,Norwegian,Blue,1 ;X(3,14)
+-=,Blend,Water,1 ;X(3,15)
This program can only process 5 types of rules, using 3 subroutines, but it only need 4 of them for the Zebra Puzzle. Sherlock would need a few more kinds of rule processors. Many logic puzzles would need even more. I’m unaware of any comprehensive review and catalog of these rule types, or an estimate or precise proof of how many there are.
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01-05-2009
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#10 (permalink)
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Not Ranked : +0 / -0 0 score Re: einstien's puzzle hey i tried that game its cool
more fun to play cause its coloful
although al of that kinda confuses the senses
i think i got like 12min something secs first time
i like it
i think i'm switchin
the song even emits cheeseyness
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