Recreation of Wöhler’s urea synthesis

[Tim_Lou]

Wohler reacted silver cyanate and ammonium chloride, and he got a white crystal that appeared to be urea.
First time in history, an organic molecule is created from inorganic molecule.
take a look at this website:
http://library.beau.org/gutenberg/etext05/8036210.txt

"Until the year 1828 it was believed that organic substances could only
be formed under the influence of the vital force in the bodies of
animals and plants. It was W?r who proved by the artificial
preparation of urea from inorganic materials that this view could not be
maintained. This discovery has always been considered as one of the most
important contributions to our scientific knowledge. By showing that
ammonium cyanate can become urea by an internal arrangement of its
atoms, without gaining or losing in weight, W?r furnished one of the
first and best examples of isomerism, which helped to demolish the old
view that equality of composition could not coexist in two bodies, A
and B, with differences in their respective physical and chemical
properties."

it was proven that no supernatural energy is needed for the synthesis of organic moleculers, or maybe at least not all of them. Also, it agrees the possibility that living things arose from non-organic matters.

[Freethinker]

Good going Tim. Thanks for the info

[TINNY]

and it agrees the possibility that life arose from non-organic matters.

you mean biological life. because i think something alive is one that moves. so inorganic matter has life because it moves.

it was proven that no supernatural energy is needed for the synthesis of organic moleculers, and it agrees the possibility that life arose from non-organic matters.

yes. it is a continuous process. I would like to agree that biological life arose from non-organic matter, but you cannot state that just because organic matter is formed from inorganic matter. Some sort of non-sequitur, i think. I guess skinner's operant conditioning is at work here. Little Tim finds it very rewarding when he shows that he equally abhors any supernatural entities as most others, as demonstrated by FT's response. Even when there are flaws, he ignores it. Anything stated by someone on the opposite side is closely scrutinized and ridiculed. And by the way, EM energy is needed for the 'envolution' of matter. Every interaction is through EM energy. So if EM is metaphysical in nature, i have no problem that it is similar to the supernatural energy concept.

[Tim_Lou]

for what i mean supernatural: from dictionary.com
"Of or relating to existence outside the natural world.
Attributed to a power that seems to violate or go beyond natural forces."

so, EM is certainly not violating natural forces, it is well described in many equations.
the website belows gives a ton of information, EM is not something that is considered as unexplainable or supernatural.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism

[Tim_Lou]

"so inorganic matter has life because it move"
well, i should change my original statement to clarify it a bit.

[TINNY]

Attributed to a power that seems to violate or go beyond natural forces

i wouldn't say natural forces. That natural force is metaphysical in itself. You just don't know the true nature of nature.

[TINNY]

Originally Posted by Tim_Lou

for what i mean supernatural: from dictionary.com
"Of or relating to existence outside the natural world.
Attributed to a power that seems to violate or go beyond natural forces."

so, EM is certainly not violating natural forces, it is well described in many equations.
the website belows gives a ton of information, EM is not something that is considered as unexplainable or supernatural.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism

sorry, i meant EM waves. The nature of it as having no mass and no volume, and the constant speed.

[Tim_Lou]

then this statement might be true: "Of or relating to existence outside the natural world.
But not this one: "Attributed to a power that seems to violate or go beyond natural forces."
EM is one of the 4 natural forces...

[TINNY]

tim, read EMW, not EM