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I found a list at this site:
Fields of Forensic Science

And some more here:
Hot topic: Forensics (State Library of Queensland)


I'm not sure what the second part of your question means. If it's efficient for a forensic scientist to have physics why would you want to replace it?
hmm ok well im thinkn of doing these subjects
English (needed)
Methods (needed)
Japanese (like it)
Chemistry(needed for uni course)
Specialist Maths(shood i choose this or physics if im thinking of doing forensic science)
Biology (dnt like it but hav to do it so i wont be lost in forensics at uni)

Can you also do me a favour and tell me which science is more important in forensic science and order them like 1. chemistry 2.____3.
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hmm ok well im thinkn of doing these subjects
English (needed)
Methods (needed)
Japanese (like it)
Chemistry(needed for uni course)
Specialist Maths(shood i choose this or physics if im thinking of doing forensic science)
Biology (dnt like it but hav to do it so i wont be lost in forensics at uni)

Can you also do me a favour and tell me which science is more important in forensic science and order them like 1. chemistry 2.____3.
__ thank you

Maybe drop the specialist maths if you don't really need it and perhaps do a computer subject if one is offered - that will come in handy if you want to get into computer forensics.

The science more important in forensic science is the one you'll major in, so chemistry is first for you and 2. biology and 3. physics.
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computers at school is reallly really stupid here so i think ill study computers at uni ..and for vCE its basically useless so i think i'd do physics to start , besides computer forensics course require ments dont say you hav to have any pre requiste computer subjects.

ALSO IF i wanted to be a forensic science that goes to crime scenes , collects evidence, look at the scene then recreate wat happened in my mind and go bak to the lab and investigate the evidece that i ahv already collected formt he scene with chemicals and use computers to retrieve physics results about which way blood will spurt for example. , << what would you call this type of forensic
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ALSO IF i wanted to be a forensic science that goes to crime scenes , collects evidence, look at the scene then recreate wat happened in my mind and go bak to the lab and investigate the evidece that i ahv already collected formt he scene with chemicals and use computers to retrieve physics results about which way blood will spurt for example. , << what would you call this type of forensic
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I'd say that's crime scene investigation, but I'm not sure just one person would do all that. I think those tasks would be divided among people.
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so is CSI a section in forensics or is it required of all forensic wrkers if it is required that they're there for eg fire arms or computers - say if the crime scene a car crash wood u get the forensics that study automobiles
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so is CSI a section in forensics or is it required of all forensic wrkers if it is required that they're there for eg fire arms or computers - say if the crime scene a car crash wood u get the forensics that study automobiles
Yes, CSI is a section in forensics. You can be a CSI or you can be a forensic scientist who analyses samples in the lab.

Have a read of this:
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Every CSI unit handles the division between field work and lab work differently. What goes on at the crime scene is called crime scene investigation (or crime scene analysis), and what goes on in the laboratory is called forensic science. Not all CSIs are forensic scientists. Some CSIs only work in the field -- they collect the evidence and then pass it to the forensics lab. In this case, the CSI must still possess a good understanding of forensic science in order to recognize the specific value of various types of evidence in the field. But in many cases, these jobs overlap.
Joe Clayton is a primary crime scene responder at the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI). He has 14 years of field experience and also is an expert in certain areas of forensic science. As Clayton explains, his role in laboratory analysi*s varies according to the type of evidence he brings back from the crime scene:

"Depending on what scientific examinations are needed or requested, I may be involved in the actual "bench work" once the evidence is submitted to the laboratory. I have expertise in blood pattern identification (blood spatter), trajectory determination, serology (blood and body fluids), and photography. I also have knowledge in many other areas (firearms, fingerprints, questioned documents...) that may assist me at the scene. As a primary crime scene responder at the CBI, my role at the scene may involve one or more of my particular disciplines. While I would not do a functionality test on a firearm here at the laboratory, my role at the crime scene would be to collect the gun and understand its potential evidentiary significance."
It's a big article, so read the rest of it here:
HowStuffWorks "How Crime Scene Investigation Works"

It might answer more of your questions.
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ok since u no my uni plan out

To be a CSI do i hav to hav a qualifycation

and wood it aafect salary for example i cmplete bachelor of forensic science n then start 2 years in the wrk force wood i b able to do CSI and forensic science?(chemisrtry)
and then get the post graduate for computer forensic and also do CSI in that as well as lab and computer wrk??

Or is CSI and extra qualifycation or does it come with a choice wen u enter the wrk force aftrer completing a bachelors
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ok since u no my uni plan out

To be a CSI do i hav to hav a qualifycation

and wood it aafect salary for example i cmplete bachelor of forensic science n then start 2 years in the wrk force wood i b able to do CSI and forensic science?(chemisrtry)
and then get the post graduate for computer forensic and also do CSI in that as well as lab and computer wrk??

Or is CSI and extra qualifycation or does it come with a choice wen u enter the wrk force aftrer completing a bachelors

It would be really useful if you typed correctly so I can understand what you're trying to say. It's difficult, and extremely annoying to read your post.


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A wide range of expertise is required in forensic investigations. A forensic scientist may specialise in chemistry, physics, biochemistry, molecular biology, botany, geology, metallurgy, pharmacology, toxicology, crime scene examination, firearms examination, fingerprint and document examination.
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So a CSI is a forensic scientist who has specialised in the area of crime scene investigation. So therefore, yes, you need a degree to be a CSI.

You can be a CSI as a computer forensic scientist, but you'll be working on cases involving computers. You won't be going out to a murder scene to collect blood samples, but you might collect hard drives or computer files or emails belonging to the murder victim or suspect.

You can choose to either work in a lab doing forensic chemical analysis or you can work in computer forensics. I don't think you can expect to be a jack of all trades but if would be better for your career to become a specialist in something. So you can initially work in a forensics lab doing sample analysis, and then you can move into computer forensics, but you'll no doubt leave the chemistry work behind.

Take a look at this:
Welcome to Forensic Data - The Data Recovery Experts
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above you said a wide range of expertise is needed but wherever i read something like that is there a reason why i never see computers
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It certainly isn't a comprehensive list of the areas of forensic science, but more of a focus on the "science" areas. There's also areas of forensics such as entomology, psychology, anthropology that aren't usually listed but exist nonetheless.

Here's a website you might find interesting:
A Free & Comprehensive Guide To The World of Forensic Science
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