Chemistry of Paint & Pigments

Turtle · 05-27-2005

___Thanks akcapr; do you paint? I am in the process of moving but my painting is now 7/8 done. I like it enough I think I will do another as the paint goes pretty far.

C1ay · 05-27-2005

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Originally Posted by Turtle

___Thanks akcapr; do you paint? I am in the process of moving but my painting is now 7/8 done. I like it enough I think I will do another as the paint goes pretty far.

The post that broke the palindrome.....

akcapr · 05-27-2005

actually i dont paint. i did a couple times

Turtle · 06-07-2005

___A benefactor bought for me a new blank canvas & 2 tubes of paint.

One the gray I discussed earlier, & a tube of Titanium White. The Titanium White tube says no known acute or chronic health hazzards from the titanium dioxide pigment; cost, $4.99 US

Turtle · 07-30-2005

___I finished my first ever painting 1 week ago. I figure I spent at least 25 hours on it & this time is chaotically spread over about a year as best as I can remember. The specific subject matter I hinted about is of course a Katabatak graph. The painting is on a 24x30 (inches) canvas & composed of 4,165 squares in 7 different colors.
___Segway to brain chemistry to make this look relavent now. How to relate the original value of the chemicals & their dangerous toxicity or lack thereof involed in producing the pigments & polymers to any value in the painting I produced using them? To whit, do I post a photo of my painting or not? How or even does this decision affect any value of said painting? How do I justify myself as a minimalist in now "having" or "acquiring" a piece of art which others may or may not attribute value to?
___Discuss.

Turtle · 08-24-2005

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___I was painting with green yesterday, & it has no warnings on the tube except to say it contains 'Acrylic Polymer Emulsion'. This green however is not as creamy & homogenous as the other colors I have used & it has a lumpy & almost grainy texture. I don't know if it has to do with the pigment or the polymer mix.

___I have painted every day save one for the last month-and-a-half or so; often it is just 10 or 15 minutes, never more than 30. This time I have a little record book where I keep accurate account.
___Anyway, my current painting is a study in red & green & I don't like the depth of the green even after 2 coats. Today I received some misdirected doll & went for bier, tobacco, new canvass & paint. I bought more green from a different manufacture but with the same title "Permanent Green Light"; I don't know yet if it has a lumpy polymer, but it lists these pigments:
Chlorinated Copper Phthalocyanine & Benzimdazalone Yellow
___I intended to buy a 4x5 foot canvas but the place I received a ride to didn't have that; they did have square canvasses though, so I purchased 2, 24"x24" packaged together.
___Keepin' it chemical & my brushes out of my mouth.

Turtle Out

Chacmool · 08-26-2005

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Originally Posted by Turtle

___I finished my first ever painting 1 week ago. I figure I spent at least 25 hours on it & this time is chaotically spread over about a year as best as I can remember. The specific subject matter I hinted about is of course a Katabatak graph. The painting is on a 24x30 (inches) canvas & composed of 4,165 squares in 7 different colors.
___Segway to brain chemistry to make this look relavent now. How to relate the original value of the chemicals & their dangerous toxicity or lack thereof involed in producing the pigments & polymers to any value in the painting I produced using them? To whit, do I post a photo of my painting or not? How or even does this decision affect any value of said painting? How do I justify myself as a minimalist in now "having" or "acquiring" a piece of art which others may or may not attribute value to?
___Discuss.

Regrettably, I only saw this post now. First of all: congratulations on finishing your first ever painting! It must have been quite an intense experience, eh?

In my opinion, all art is subjective. Is a painting automatically good because it was done by a famous painter? Or do we judge it on merit? And who gets to decide on the merits?

I believe your painting is relevant because a) it illustrates an interesting topic (Katabatak), b) it represents a year in the life of a valued member of Hypography, and c) it was done by the famous Turtle!

So please do post a photo - it is sure to be of value to many of us here!

HydrogenBond · 09-01-2005

If want quality without price, go to a local paint store. Buy tubes of universal pigments and some latex tinting bases. Make your own colors. Two quarts of base give you 16 4oz colors. You can mix with glazes for transparencies or some venetian plaster for thickening.

Artist paints, like boat paints are expensive because they cater to a narrow market. But they use the same materials as house paint but a double to triple the cost. Trade secret.

Turtle · 09-06-2005

___Thanks Hydrogen! I intend to check out the paint store. It may still make more economical sense to buy artist paint if I don't paint very much or only paint relatively small canvasses. I intend to also look into buying raw canvas & pine boards to make my own large canvasses.
___Thanks also Chacmool! I have 1 finished painting, 1 done but not finished, & 1 new underway; I have to think about a photo still.

Turtle · 09-06-2005

___Until I need the space, here is a photo of the finished painting; I sacrificed detail for scale. No title, but if anyone asks I say the style is cubist impressionism.

PS Going to the Gallery with it; maximum file size for attachments now reported 19 KB. BRB with link.

http://hypography.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=469&c=3