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10-06-2005
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Acetone as a fuel additive?
Here's an interesting article I ran across...
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Originally Posted by Open Source Energy Network
Acetone In Fuel Said to Increase Mileage
Readily-available chemical added to gas tank in small proportion improves the fuel's ability to vaporize completely by reducing the surface tension that inhibits vaporization of some fuel droplets.
by Louis LaPointe
Acetone (CH3COCH3) is a product that can be purchased inexpensively in most locations around the world, such as in the common hardware, auto parts, or drug store. Added to the fuel tank in tiny amounts, acetone aids in the vaporization of the gasoline or diesel, increasing fuel efficiency, engine longevity, and performance -- as well as reducing hydrocarbon emissions.
How it Works
Complete vaporization of fuel is far from perfect in today's cars and trucks. A certain amount of residual fuel in most engines remains liquid in the hot chamber. In order to be fully combusted, the fuel must be fully vaporized.
Surface tension presents an obstacle to vaporization. For instance the energy barrier from surface tension can sometimes force water to reach 300 degrees Fahrenheit before it vaporizes. Similarly with gasoline.
Acetone drastically reduces the surface tension. Most fuel molecules are sluggish with respect to their natural frequency. Acetone has an inherent molecular vibration that "stirs up" the fuel molecules, to break the surface tension. This results in a more complete vaporization with other factors remaining the same. More complete vaporization means less wasted fuel, hence the increased gas mileage from the increased thermal efficiency.
That excess fuel was formerly wasted past the rings or sent out the tailpipe but when mixed with acetone it gets burned, though the engine still thinks it is running straight gas.
Acetone allows gasoline to behave more like the ideal automotive fuel which is PROPANE. The degree of improved mileage depends on how much unburned fuel you are presently wasting. You might gain 15 to 35-percent better economy from the use of acetone. Sometimes even more.
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10-06-2005
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Re: Acetone as a fuel additive?
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15-35% increase in fuel economy sounds easy enough to test, but only if the instructions are a bit more exact than “added to the fuel tank in tiny amounts”.
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10-06-2005
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Re: Acetone as a fuel additive?
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Originally Posted by CraigD
15-35% increase in fuel economy sounds easy enough to test, but only if the instructions are a bit more exact than “added to the fuel tank in tiny amounts”.
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If you read the linked article you will see that it species 1-3 oz per 10 gallons.
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10-07-2005
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Re: Acetone as a fuel additive?
Acetone will chew up your elastomers on prolonged contact - seals, gaskets, rubber hoses. One sincerely doubts a trace addition of acetone will make any difference at all in fuel injectors Do you think any gasoline company could stare at "15-35% increase in fuel economy" and not jump on it for the publicity alone?
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10-07-2005
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Re: Acetone as a fuel additive?
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Acetone will chew up your elastomers on prolonged contact - seals, gaskets, rubber hoses.
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How much effect do you think it will have at the maximum recommended mixture of 2.3 thousandths of a percent?
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Re: Acetone as a fuel additive?
Acetone is an excellent solvent and new gasket material would be needed. If one spills in one the plastic skirt of their car it will craze or crack it.
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Acetone will chew up your elastomers on prolonged contact - seals, gaskets, rubber hoses. One sincerely doubts a trace addition of acetone will make any difference at all in fuel injectors Do you think any gasoline company could stare at "15-35% increase in fuel economy" and not jump on it for the publicity alone?
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Of course, I'm skeptical of the claim, which reminds me of the carburetor/throttle body widgets one occasionally sees advertised that make similar claims.
Just to be fair and unassuming (one might even say credulous and foolish), I was thinking of trying this in a 1992 Cavalier I have cluttering my driveway. I’ve been thinking for some time of scrapping its engine and using it as a hobby electric car, so having its few non-metal fuel line and other parts eaten up by acetone-gasoline wouldn’t be too big a loss.
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10-07-2005
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Acetone is an excellent solvent and new gasket material would be needed. If one spills in one the plastic skirt of their car it will craze or crack it.
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It just doesn't seem to me that 2 to 6 tablespoons of acetone to 10 gallons of gasoline is going to be that agressive. It's only 1 to 3 parts to 1,280.
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10-08-2005
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Re: Acetone as a fuel additive?
It isn't matter of one-time contact. It is a matter of continuous exposure to fresh solvent. A polar absorptive material - automotive nitrile rubber gaskets, for instance - will continuously extract acetone from the nonpolar fuel feed. The elastomer parts will soften, swell, and fragment.
Automotive synlubes are a mixture of poly(alpha-olefin) base stock plus polyester, about 80:20, to carefully balance solvation of elastomer gaskets, seals, and lines they contact. Everytime some idiot Enviro-whiner fuel pogrom is emplaced, cars burst into flame throughout the nation as their plumbing leaks. This is good for business, from the evening news to Detroit.
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12-01-2005
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Re: Acetone as a fuel additive?
I dont think so. There are two main reasons why
1.Acetone boils at 140 degrees...it wouldnt be able to be vapourized into a carborator
2.Acetone is a byproduct of incomplete combustion.It cannot used as an additive in combustion because it is a byproduct of incombustion
It is the same with anything of the sort. CO is the byproduct of incomplete combustion.Urea is the incomplete combustion of hydrazine within the small intestines.
The small intestines make alot of fancy indole and phenethylamine structures
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