Salvia Divinorum

[orbsycli]

Originally Posted by JackOfTraDeZ

check the vaults of erowid online for all the info you ever need on this stuff


i advise against all psychedelics - you are really taking a gamble. you will be sorry. i was, many years ago ...

Sorry to hear that. I love psychedelics. The science behind them is so mind boggling, isn't it?

[Michaelangelica]

Traditionally. the juice of ten or so leaves were used. It wasn't smoked.

A researcher in Adelaide was looking at it for treating depression. It was banned: so his research ended.

I note plants are available (fairly cheaply) from Richters in Canada.
Mine died one winter.
It is a very large pretty saliva but it needs I think a frost free environment (?)

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by Tarantism

i am interested i knowing more about Salvia Divinorum as a phychoactive drug. are there positives? what are the negatives? if you posses any knowlege at all, please share it with me

I've tried it several different ways. I didn't get anything but a very breif feeling of well being. I've heard of people getting really high off of it but I have my doubts.

[alexander]

Originally Posted by Tarantism

i am interested i knowing more about Salvia Divinorum

someone has been listening to 1200 Mics eh?

You can buy it at 2 or 3 drug stores here in CT, as it is apparently not illegal, and from what i have heard from my good friends, its not worth spending a ridiculously large amount of money on, for what it was, and trips that (4 independent friends that i have heard it from) could have been beaten by even low-end bud that would have cost them less then 1/2 the money. General consensus was that they paid 120 or 140, split it (all of it) between 4-5 ppl, and would have been better off with $40-50 per 1/4oz of decent nuggets... (mind you this is all here-say) (oh and nuggets would have made for 3-4 people happy 4-5 times)

[Michaelangelica]

Originally Posted by alexander

r 1/4oz of decent nuggets... (mind you this is all here-say) (oh and nuggets would have made for 3-4 people happy 4-5 times)

i have no first hand knowledge; but is sounds as if you were not using it properly. See my previous post.

Experiments with hallucinogenics need great care. Look to the traditional way the herb was used. (Usually in religious ceremonies). Respect this.
If the native uses included a fast then fast. If special preparation or food was needed,- do it.
Then make sure you have at least two people to sit with you after you take the drug/herb.
Remember you are sticking a hot poker into your brain/grey matter and giving it a stir and anything can happen-including death and permanent 'madness'.

[alexander]

i have no first hand knowledge; but is sounds as if you were not using it properly.

michaelangelica, i have never done psychoactive drugs, nor am i ever planning to do them, smoked weed once, well caught a few drags, didn't do anything, so i guess i have to go again at some point, maybe, or so my friends that smoke every day say, and i had a sip of absynth, that tastes really licoricely, like really really really, and i hate licorice, so that is about as much drugs as i have ever done.... so it really is here-say.

beyond this, i see no point in my participation in the thread, as i can not contribute to the scientific value of it... unless someone has questions or comments on my post ofcourse...

[Salviasite]

Great post about Salvia Divinorum really i get a knowledge it.

[plumber]

I agree with inny. Smoking just the leaf produces nothing like the 10, 20X potency "incense" sold in head shops, smoke shops whatever. The potent extracts are another beast altogether. It is very very different, and not a thing to be done lightly. It's powers of detachment are so profound you had better be a bug eating witch doctor in the hills of Mexico with nothing better to do. A 106 fever produces hallucinations as well...but it sure isn't much fun. I believe that if the duration of effects were a bit longer, say 30 minutes to a couple of hours, a lot of people would not find their way back. The detachment would be psychologically devastating and permanent. It tends to partition your accepted consciousness into two. One thought process seeks to convince the other that detachment is in fact the true reality and that your body is no longer needed Now that's what I call detachment! Because of this aspect, I do not believe it to be an aid to any kind of quest...higher learning, expanding the mind, examining ones inner workings etc.
Wish you well, but don't do it. I just had to say something about it. I didn't fool with it as far as moderation goes...I wanted to know what it was capable of. If you must, if this sounds fun, then please read up and and follow the protocols found elsewhere. Take care,
plumber

[lemit]

Maybe you should check the Hypography rules, specifically Rule 6.

--lemit

[plumber]

Hey lemit, Im sorry. wasnt promoting or encouraging. Maybe you got my post mixed up with another? Its kind of like birth control... I said dont do it. But if you must...go elsewhere for your info...