[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by freeztar

That may be the case, but then, where does the O2 come from?

Chlorine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How has Turtle been able to produce O2 and H2 via the annode and cathode? Where is the chlorine in his system?

Again, what are the chemical equations?

If you had looked at the link I provided you would have seen the reaction described in detail. Chlorine collects at the anode and hydrogen collects at the cathode and sodium hydroxide collects in the water around the cathode. You have to use a brine solution for this to happen. Sodium hydroxide is produced instead of oxygen.

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Moontanman

If you had looked at the link I provided you would have seen the reaction described in detail. Chlorine collects at the anode and hydrogen collects at the cathode and sodium hydroxide collects in the water around the cathode. You have to use a brine solution for this to happen. Sodium hydroxide is produced instead of oxygen.

Indeed, looking at the equations in the wiki on Cl I linked to previously, it's spelled out pretty obviously.

Overall process: 2 NaCl (or KCl) + 2 H2O → Cl2 + H2 + 2 NaOH (or KOH)

This is for the specific purpose of gas extraction though.

Chlorine can be manufactured by electrolysis of a sodium chloride solution (brine). The production of chlorine results in the co-products caustic soda (sodium hydroxide, NaOH) and hydrogen gas (H2). These two products, as well as chlorine itself, are highly reactive.

I'll have to look at this more tomorrow, or as time permits, as I'm way past my tired zone (and bed time).

[redeagle]

I found one thing about AC in electrolysis today: only produced gas at an ideal voltage acquired through a 30amp variac transformer. However it was not enough to collect and burn test, and an immense amount of heat was created.

When I can get my hand on some supplies i'm going to try a modified wave through the use of diodes. Procedures to be tested as follows:

I will set up two identical electrolysis chambers.
Wire them as parallel structures splitting the lead lines lead lines from the transformer.
Use a common neutral line.
Place an overated diode capable of stopping reversed flow of electricity (will refer to an electrician for correct diodes) in the independant portion of the lead lines. Note they will be placed in opposite flow directions.
Once the connections are made and verified then i will continue to testing phase.

Testing procedures: 1)power the variac transformer 2) crank of the voltage slowly. 3)pray

Ideal results: The positive and negative portions of the sine wave will induce a current in their respective chambers using an alternating current without first rectifying to DC. the gap between each respective pulse will idealy allow the bubbles to float off the plates before the next pulse goes through.

Actual results: TBD keep your fingers crossed.

[redeagle]

My diode pack worked. It allowed me to utilize the same alternating current to power parellel electrolysis chambers. I used an array of 200V rectifing diodes to separate the current. Connected the seperated current through respective electroysis chambers to the neutral line from my transformer. it actually works a little two well, we can't keep the rubber caps on the test chambers because of the pressure.

Start with low voltage and low amperage. then work your way up.

my next test on the control side will be with rotary pots instead of the transformer.

pictures to come soon

[Jay-qu]

Could you possibly give us a diagram? Do you have crocodile clips? ( its a handy program for drawing circuit diagrams)

[redeagle]

Though the production of Chlorine gas with the electrolysis of salt water has already been hashed out, here is a link that may give more light on the subject. NASA: Aquarius Mission Web Site - Education: Classroom Activities - Electrolysis of Salt Water

[redeagle]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

Could you possibly give us a diagram? Do you have crocodile clips? ( its a handy program for drawing circuit diagrams)

Yes I will post a schematic along with the pictures when i get them...hopefully this weekend.