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Question DMT and the Psychedelic Pineal.

i was recently started to find in my reading that the compound DMT (being Di-methyl-triptamine, not the other compound NN-DMt) is produced by the pineal gland naturally, throughout our entire lives, and also that the brain accepts DMT (whereas it rejects or fights most psychedelics, such as LSD or Psysolin/psilyciben). this "indigeonus DMT" is present in every human for "some reason"- one that has yet to be determined-.

it has been suggested that this indigeonus DMT is released nly during Birth, Near Death, and more skeptically accidental releases of this DMT could be the cause(or could be mistaken for) alien abductions...(during studies the volanteers often decribed "others" were present or that "they came in contact with other beings, not human, not even nessesarily from this dimension". also, near death experiances could trigger accidental raeleases of this DMT, which could be responsable for the "warm, white light at the end of a tunnel (see next paragraph). there is one other instance where this DMT could accidentally be released...and that is the highest forms of meditation, though i am a bit skeptical about that one.

there is also the religious question, along with meeting other beings, research subjects often could feel "warmth and love everywhere", "the presance of God", "hear god's voice", and nearly every subject saw a "white light" and could "...feel the source of all power in the universe...".

i do not know much about neurology, though i am learning, and i am looking for opinions from chemists on why they think DMT is present, and accepted by our brain. could it be that this chemical compound is responsable for your unique consiousness?

*ref: DMT: the Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman, MD.
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Re: DMT and the Psychedelic Pineal.

According to my Biology Textbook, and what an intelligent Professor told me the Pineal Gland:
It secretes Melatonin that targets the Hypothalamus to influence daily biorhythms.
My Prof. said Pineal gland is still a bit of a mystery, and that that its most likely involved in Adolescent Growth.. Its not really a major player like the Pituitary

Interesting thread! I've posted some thing about Hormones and glands on my Humans Internal Chemistry.... thread
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Re: DMT and the Psychedelic Pineal.

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Re: DMT and the Psychedelic Pineal.

it is also my understanding that the pineal controls seratonin AND melatonin levels int he body, along with producing indigeonous DMT.

also, i forgot to mention that there are receptors that carry this DMT directly from the Pineal Gland to the Sensory glands, i believe mainly the "sight" and "Auditory" bits get the most.
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Re: DMT and the Psychedelic Pineal.

Perhaps you ar right (((Tartanism)))...
I can't really find skat about the Pineal.

Seratonin is a neurotransmitter that acts on brain cells that govern sleeping, sensory perception, regulation of body temp., and emotional states...
All the things that happen when "tripped on 'shrooms"

Textbook about 2-3 yrs. old.

Sounds like the Seratonin levels have a lot do with hallucinogenic arousal.

Let us know what you discover!

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Re: DMT and the Psychedelic Pineal.

Useful book my professor used (granted, a few years back) in a Psychopharmacology class...


Well done, useful info... for drug and non-drug functions in the brain.
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thanks for the referance infinate, i will pick that up as soon as i can.
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Re: DMT and the Psychedelic Pineal.

would it be safe to assume that DMT being released close to death is just the body's natural way of making it easier to "let go" so to speak?


And if it is released during birth as well... it might also be the body's natural way of helping "accept" this weird new world that you are born in. I mean... I'm sure it must be shellshock to go from dark, warm, tummy... to being in a cold, bright, weird place with these beings touching you and staring at you.
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Re: DMT and the Psychedelic Pineal.

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would it be safe to assume that DMT being released close to death is just the body's natural way of making it easier to "let go" so to speak?


And if it is released during birth as well... it might also be the body's natural way of helping "accept" this weird new world that you are born in. I mean... I'm sure it must be shellshock to go from dark, warm, tummy... to being in a cold, bright, weird place with these beings touching you and staring at you.
do some research on how DMT effects the human brain...its quite unlike an LSD or Mushroom trip. read some trip reports on erowid.

as far as "beings touching and blah....", when you read some trip reports, you will find that quite the same thing happens to those who use DMT.
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do some research on how DMT effects the human brain...its quite unlike an LSD or Mushroom trip. read some trip reports on erowid.

as far as "beings touching and blah....", when you read some trip reports, you will find that quite the same thing happens to those who use DMT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_Gland

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Reports in rodents suggest that the pineal gland may influence the actions of drugs of abuse such as cocaine [1] and antidepressants such as fluoxetine (Prozac)[2]; and contribute to regulation of neuronal vulnerability[3]. In addition, it has been proposed by Rick Strassman that the pineal gland is responsible for manufacture of endogenous dimethyltryptamine (DMT) although this is only speculation. There are some who believe DMT has a role in dreaming and possibly near-death experiences and other mystical states, and, although not proven, it was hypothesized in 1988 by Jace Callaway that DMT is connected with visual dreaming. Dr. Strassman expanded upon this theory in his book: DMT: The Spirit Molecule. However, significant (or any?) DMT production by the pineal gland has not been reported in the refereed scientific literature (PubMed search as of July 24, 2006).
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