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Old 04-09-2006   #11 (permalink)
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I am not promoting cigarettes of MJ, just a little logical thinking.
Not really, you forgot to factor in the fact that a joint produces much more tar than a cigarette of tobacco. BTW, there is no dopamine in marijuana,


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Not really, you forgot to factor in the fact that a joint produces much more tar than a cigarette of tobacco. BTW, there is no dopamine in marijuana,
no dopamine in cannabis.
Hm,
does the chemical reaction of thc in the body promote the release of dopamine? (just a wild question) I know orgasms do.

I've always heard that joints have more tar than cigarettes, but where are the studies?

There's nothing about that on www.erowid.org
of if there is, i havn't seen it.

Seriously, where can I read up on that study?

If you don't want a lot of tar,
buy a bong
and inhale the vapors passed thru water.

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Here's a study at Marijuana.com. Even the bong passes on unhealthy tars. If you're going to use it I would recommend learning how to extract just the cannabanoids.


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Re: smoking?

I used the word dope (amine) as a pun on words. Marijuana does not contain it but can cause its release in the brain like anything that brings pleasure. There is more tar pound for pound in MJ than cigarettes, but the ratio of consumption is much lower. It is not clear how that adds up with respect to tar. Cigarettes are also humanly tempered for smell, taste, faster burning, etc. MJ appear to do this with selective breeding.

Have there ever been studies about whether people who smoke MJ are more or less likely to be on legal perscription meds for things like depression, hypertension, anxiety, etc.. In other words, does MJ promote this usuage, or act as a self prescribed replacement?
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Here's a study at Marijuana.com. Even the bong passes on unhealthy tars. If you're going to use it I would recommend learning how to extract just the cannabanoids.
thank you for the life changing reccomendation...


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Even standing around a bbq pit will increase your chance of cancer... any form... lung, colon, brain... because of the smoke inhalation. Cannibas smoking, while it has positive effects, also has negative and cancer risk (not just lung) goes up.

Interestingly, considering this, smoking out might not be the best thing for cancer patients. Oh well, at least they will be smiling.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/co...ancer_Risk.asp
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Volunteers needed for smoking cessation research

Hello,

I am a graduate student at the University of British Columbia (UBC). I am conducting research on people's experience quitting smoking and their thoughts about nicotine cravings. The goal of this research is learn more about the psychological factors that make quitting smoking so difficult.

We are looking for people who are quitting smoking to help with this research by participating in an online study. We would really appreciate it if you would consider contributing to our research.
Participation involves filling out a 50-minute online questionnaire and a 2-minute follow-up survey one month later. You can participate from your home, and you don't need to live in Canada to take part.

Participants will receive a cheque for $20 CDN in appreciation for their time.

To find out if you are eligible to participate, please answer these questions:
- Were you a regular smoker for at least a year?
- Have you been making a serious attempt to quit in the past few months?
- Is English your first language?
- Are you at least 19 years old?

If you answered yes to these questions, please call Liz at (604) 822-8025 or email us at swlab@psych.ubc.ca to participate.

We’re accepting participants until APRIL 15th, 2006.

Please note: this research is non-profit and is not associated with any tobacco or other for-profit companies. It also has the ethical approval of the University of British Columbia Behavioural Research Ethics Board.

Project Title: Craving-related intrusive thoughts: Applying lessons learned from obsessions. This project is a part of research being conducted for a graduate thesis. Principal Investigator: Dr. Sheila Woody

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Re: Volunteers needed for smoking cessation research

Hello swlab,

While the intent of your research is admirable, this looks a little like Spam (not one of Hypography's favorite food groups). However, you might find information to assist you and your colleagues from a project which has been conducted at the American Cancer Society (a project which I personally helped launch and evaluate) called Quitline.

The factors are physiological and psychological, and when someone tries quitting this habit (another key word) their unconscious starts playing tricks to get them to think it's okay to smoke... this is the addiction. Thing is, nicotine fits into one of our neuroreceptors (nicotinic acetocholine) very well, like a key into a lock, and this is part of why it's so physically challenging to quit.

"I'll just have one... I want to reward myself."


We found that you need to train yourself to quit, like learning to ride a bike. You must prepare for your toughest times and have a strategy to deal with the cravings, and back-up strategies for when those fail. You must get rid of any reminder of smoking (like ashtrays and empty or half full pack of cigs around the house). Having support and using prepared strategies like, "If I have a craving, I'll get down and do 25 push-ups instead..." provide the best chance of success. (The push-ups thing is how I quit, except I did 75).

It's important to replace the behavior of smoking with somethinig that you enjoy, otherwise, the individual will feel like something is missing from their life and they will have a tougher time.


Anyway, good luck in your research. I hope you'll contribute something more to our forums than a solicitation for participants.


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Let us use a little math; If smoking a pack (20) of cigarettes a day over 20-30 years increases the odds of lung cancer, and....
Most people smoke cigarettes with filters, which do exclude some of the nastier tar resins and particulates. MJ cigarettes do not typically have filters, so you get ALL that yummy partially combusted goo in your lungs.

Now, from what I have read, MJ smokers also frequently smoke their handrolls right down to the very end, using "joint clips" to hold the "roaches". The resins are extremely concentrated in the "roach". {gosh, I hope I'm getting this arkane terminology right!} So, it may take only twice as long to get lung cancer from MJ as from RJ Reynolds. Or thereabouts. Approximately.


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Re: Volunteers needed for smoking cessation research

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... I hope you'll contribute something more to our forums than a solicitation for participants....
I have smoked tobacco cigarettes for a number of years, in three periods of my life. I stopped smoking three times and am still stopped, though temptations do occur.

What I have learned is that to successfully quit smoking one has to resolve that certain "conversations" in the mind are forbidden. Like, "one more won't hurt..." and "I really need one because I'm so stressed..." and "I don't care any more what happens to me..." and "it's okay, I can smoke just one and stay quit...", etc, etc. In other words, once the decision is made to QUIT, I have learned to no longer re-analyze that decision. I don't go back and reconsider my reasons or my motivations, or anything else. Otherwise, you'll wind up "quitting" a dozen times a day, even if you resist the temptation. And that's what makes it SO hard to quit.


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