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This thread is for all those who either wish to learn more about chemistry, or have questions on basic or advanced chemistry skills, formulas etc.

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Who can propose a tetradentate ligand with a -4 charge such that three of them chelate two Co(3+) to give a helicate complex as described below?

Uncle Al likes salts of chiral complex ions with geometrically (nearly) identical cations and anions. Example: Resolved [Co(en)3](3+) is almost exactly superposable upon [Co(ox)3](3-),

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to make the two mirror-image salts,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/xsalt.png
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One can get very clever and create helicates by linking bidentate ligands. Here we look at homochiral [Co(phen)3](3+) and [Co2(bisphen)3](6+)

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/xheli.png
stereoimages

It obviously works for [Co(bipy)3](3+) and [Co2(bisbipy)3](6+), too. Now for the fun part! Who can propose a helicate ligand that will give isomorphous [Co2(ligand)3](6-)?

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to start out, what is a ligand?


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Oh wow. I wish I was best friends with you UncleAl.
It's unfortunate that I got excited when I read your last post.

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Who can propose a tetradentate ligand with a -4 charge
i didn't know there was such a thing. I can't think of any with a -4 charge. I guess I'm not really a professional chemist.


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ligands are atoms or molecules that share its electons with a central ion.

Im happy to lend my insights to anyone that needs help.

And al I dont think thats 101


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two nights ago, I was going through a list of college classes.

I decided to embark on a trail leading to chemistry synthesis.

I have a long way to go.

But If all goes well, I should be starting this fall.

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Who can propose a tetradentate ligand with a -4 charge such that three of them chelate two Co(3+) to give a helicate complex as described below?

Uncle Al likes salts of chiral complex ions with geometrically (nearly) identical cations and anions. Example: Resolved [Co(en)3](3+) is almost exactly superposable upon [Co(ox)3](3-),

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/xions.png
stereoimages

to make the two mirror-image salts,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/xsalt.png
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One can get very clever and create helicates by linking bidentate ligands. Here we look at homochiral [Co(phen)3](3+) and [Co2(bisphen)3](6+)

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/xheli.png
stereoimages

It obviously works for [Co(bipy)3](3+) and [Co2(bisbipy)3](6+), too. Now for the fun part! Who can propose a helicate ligand that will give isomorphous [Co2(ligand)3](6-)?

Don't be shy!

wow, so, this is what I've gotten myself into.

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Which MSU is that, Unc? There are at least two that I know of...


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