What is education?

[infamous]

Originally Posted by Ananke

You are putting words into my mouth and either willfully ignoring what I write or failing to understand it.

How is it possible for me to put words in the mouth of one so enlightened?????????

Originally Posted by Ananke

I never claimed knowledge is not important. I merely take issue with your simplistic view

A life long quest is no simple thing...............

Originally Posted by Ananke

that education is about imparting knowledge, when its primary purpose is indoctrination and social control.

Without some indoctrination and social control society itself could not exist. Are you an anarchist if I may be permitted to ask?................Infy

[cwes99_03]

Ok. Hold up. Quit bickering.

When someone receives no education, it is because they don't learn anything. To learn means to gain knowledge not previously held (which includes making adjustments to knowledge thought to already have.)

One may also say you received a bad education, because what you did learn was false information. You still learned something, but what you learned was nothing but lies.

Either way you received an education. That education was the result of learning (being learned/taught) either by experience or sitting in a chair and observing.

Thus my original definition stands. Education - the result of learning

[Ananke]

Originally Posted by infamous

How is it possible for me to put words in the mouth of one so enlightened?????????

Originally Posted by Ananke

The result of learning is knowledge, not education. Education includes knowledge, of course, but that is not its primary purpose. It exists to pass on social and cultural norms to the next generation, and as such is a tool of social control.

A life long quest is no simple thing...............

That would depend on the person undertaking the quest.

Without some indoctrination and social control society itself could not exist.

What is your point? I never said that social control was not desirable. Please try to address my points, not your own preconceptions.

Are you an anarchist if I may be permitted to ask?................Infy

You may ask what you wish. Do so via PM, and not by taking the thread OT.

[infamous]

Originally Posted by Ananke

You may ask what you wish. Do so via PM, and not by taking the thread OT.

The questions I've asked you were relevant to this thread, if you refuse to answer them, that's your choice. If you have issue with those questions, you may PM me any time you wish.........................Infy

[Ananke]

I dont follow any ideology. All such are ultimately lies, and serve merely to limit your freedom of thought and action.

Are you by any chance a socialy conservative christian?

[LJP07]

Originally Posted by Ananke

Are you by any chance a socialy conservative christian?

I thought you didn't want to continue the argument and go off-topic!?
And I won't hi-jack a thread Cwes

Anyway, I think the education that covers most ( if not all ) aspects of education are made in my table Ananke at the top, of course some are more important than others which is what people here are trying to discuss, not argue.

[hallenrm]

Since I initiated this thread, I think a intervention in the foregoing discussion is called for!

The main points raised by various honorable members can be summarized as follows:

1. Education is equivalent to learning.

2. The purpose of education is social control.

3. Education per se requires the intervention of teachers/parents etc. etc.

Let me respond point vise,

While learning is a lifelong activity, education is the foundation on which a person builds up his/her edifice of knowledge. This foundation is laid early in life, say during the first sixteen(?) years of life. Education can be imparted to an individual even if he/she does not attend a formal school, either by parents/tutors or the surrounding society. For example the education of the street urchin. Formal education is not really necessary for survival or success in life. In fact one can find enough examples of socially successful persons who are not educated in the sense education is often construed to be; they are street wise!

[cwes99_03]

Very astute observations.

May I add 1 thought to go along.

Education can come from interactions with or observations of inanimate objects. Such an education is self-taught.