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Originally Posted by freeztar
ball mass=1.8
x=8.5
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The ball hit the 6 before the 3, but the 6 again just missed the 10. Left the 8 and 10.
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Re: Newtonian Bowling
ball mass=1.8
x=8.5
v=(-1.25,3.05)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freeztar
ball mass=1.8
x=8.5
v=(-1.25,3.05)
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Closer. The 6 was within about .09 of colliding with the 10.
Left the 4, 7, 8, and 10:
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Re: Newtonian Bowling
ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.25,3)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freeztar
ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.25,3)
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Left the 10, by small (about .04) margin:
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Re: 1 pin left - no win
Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigD
Left the 10, by small (about .04) margin
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That pesky ten!!
If anything is going to take it out, then it will be the 6 (in this scenario, hopefully).
So I'll increase the angle a slight amount to hopefully cause a 6-10 collision.
The question I have now is: Will a 0.01 increase in horizontal velocity create the necessary circumstances for a collision with the ten, needing a 0.04 margin of difference?
ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.26,3)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freeztar
That pesky ten!!
If anything is going to take it out, then it will be the 6 (in this scenario, hopefully).
So I'll increase the angle a slight amount to hopefully cause a 6-10 collision.
The question I have now is: Will a 0.01 increase in horizontal velocity create the necessary circumstances for a collision with the ten, needing a 0.04 margin of difference?
ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.26,3)
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Got the 10. Left the 7.
This game’s sensitive enough to initial conditions, it might deserve to be call chaotic. I didn’t recall it being quite this tricky, but I didn’t keep track of how many tries it took me, (at seconds per try, rather than the minutes or hours it takes via the thread) and my notes do look like I got into the 3rd place after the decimal before finding a strike.
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Re: Newtonian Bowling
I'll keep trying until I get it!
It may take a while though! 
ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.255,3)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freeztar
ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.255,3)
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Back to leaving the 10:
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Re: 1 pin left - no win
ball mass=1.75
x=8.5
v=(-1.464,3.5)
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