Wireless Charging

[Jay-qu]

When I first thought about wireless charging I thought it was impossible - what could be done short of mini-lightning bolts

This is a much more tame wireless charging product that requires contact with the device - but how would it work?

Apparently through induction - but they dont give away the specifics, so what do you think?

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

When I first thought about wireless charging I thought it was impossible - what could be done short of mini-lightning bolts

This is a much more tame wireless charging product that requires contact with the device - but how would it work?

Apparently through induction - but they dont give away the specifics, so what do you think?

Hmmm... Neat. It looks as if it's done through Electromagnetic Induction, just like those electric toothbrushes (such as Sonicare).


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Well, actually, with a mat and a small adapter for each device that lets it charge wirelessly when placed on the mat. RFID tags and other low-powered devices such as electric toothbrushes similarly use electromagnetic induction to transfer power without any wires.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Jay-qu

When I first thought about wireless charging I thought it was impossible - what could be done short of mini-lightning bolts

This is a much more tame wireless charging product that requires contact with the device - but how would it work?

Apparently through induction - but they dont give away the specifics, so what do you think?

or it may use the principle of reasonance as this setup does.

Originally Posted by bbc

Wireless energy promise powers up...
The system exploits "resonance", a phenomenon that causes an object to vibrate when energy of a certain frequency is applied....

shall we begin construction?


BBC NEWS | Technology | Wireless energy promise powers up

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Turtle

shall we begin construction?

Yes.

What could we resonate?
Air is such a dynamic mixture that it would be unstable to transmit through, unless controlled of course. In the case of a controlled, closed system, it's possible to sling electrons around. Perhaps we could create "virtual wires" out of electromagnetic "tubes".
How do we do this you ask?

I have no flipping clue.

But my guess is that Turtle, Jay-Q, and IN are co-inspiring the formulation. Right guys?

This topic is of great importance. I think it could be the next revolution for energy. Imagine sun-absorbing satellites beaming free energy down upon us.

But then there's reality...

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by freeztar

Yes.

What could we resonate?
Air is such a dynamic mixture that it would be unstable to transmit through, unless controlled of course. In the case of a controlled, closed system, it's possible to sling electrons around. Perhaps we could create "virtual wires" out of electromagnetic "tubes".
How do we do this you ask?

I have no flipping clue.

But my guess is that Turtle, Jay-Q, and IN are co-inspiring the formulation. Right guys?

This topic is of great importance. I think it could be the next revolution for energy. Imagine sun-absorbing satellites beaming free energy down upon us.

But then there's reality...

think about the air...now think about radio...now go ....oooooooooo; that resonance!

still, i have a mystery going here. i want to show a drawing from one of Tesla's patents. it is a type of coil he intended to use with his wireless transmission scheme and it was referenced in the Wicky article on Möbius strips. anyway, i looked at it once but now when i try to go it crashes my browser.

go to this Wicky article and scroll down to the section titled 'appearence in science and technology ' to find the Tesla reference & link. Möbius strip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it lists the patent as U.S. Patent 512,340 props to anyone who can get that drawing here.

all out for Möbius wireless power transmission.

[freeztar]

Originally Posted by Turtle

think about the air...now think about radio...now go ....oooooooooo; that resonance!

OK, now think about electricity...now think about the air....now go....oooooooooo


Of course air resonates, otherwise we would not hear like we do. The problem is that the only natural occurence of electricity being 'transported' through air is lightning. The whole system is ionic and based upon potentials, so hardly controllable (lightning rods do not count, or maybe they do).

Crystal radios derive their power from somewhere eh?

still, i have a mystery going here. i want to show a drawing from one of Tesla's patents. it is a type of coil he intended to use with his wireless transmission scheme and it was referenced in the Wicky article on Möbius strips. anyway, i looked at it once but now when i try to go it crashes my browser.

go to this Wicky article and scroll down to the section titled 'appearence in science and technology ' to find the Tesla reference & link. Möbius strip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it lists the patent as U.S. Patent 512,340 props to anyone who can get that drawing here.

No luck here.

all out for Möbius wireless power transmission.

Then you could turn that 'butterfly-effect' solar panel fan into transmittable energy, for the open market.

[Jay-qu]

I saw this turtle, when you posted the wiki in the mobius thread, but i didnt see the sketch.. I got it to work but that patent only seems to have sketches of coils for electomagnets..

[InfiniteNow]

Originally Posted by Turtle

it lists the patent as U.S. Patent 512,340 props to anyone who can get that drawing here.

Patent 512,340

Originally Posted by NIKOLA TESLA

In carrying out my invention it is to be observed that certain facts are well understood by those skilled in the art, viz: the relations of capacity, self-induction, and the frequency and potential difference of the current. What capacity, therefore, in any given case it is desirable to obtain and what special winding will secure it, are readily determinable from the other factors which are known.

What I claim as my invention is:

1. A coil for electric apparatus the adjacent convolutions of which form parts of the circuit between which there exists a potential difference sufficient to secure in the coil a capacity capable of neutralizing its self-induction, as herein before described.
2. A coil composed of contiguous or adjacent insulated conductors electrically connected in series and having a potential difference of such value as to give to the coil as a whole, a capacity sufficient to neutralize its self-induction, as set forth.

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by freeztar

OK, now think about electricity...now think about the air....now go....oooooooooo


Of course air resonates, otherwise we would not hear like we do. The problem is that the only natural occurence of electricity being 'transported' through air is lightning. The whole system is ionic and based upon potentials, so hardly controllable (lightning rods do not count, or maybe they do).

Crystal radios derive their power from somewhere eh?

No luck here.

sorry if i was vauge. radio waves, a type of electromagnetic radiation, travels through the air with relative indifference. the reception of the signal requires the tuning circuit to be in resonance with the transmitted signal, i.e. tuned to the same frequency.

Originally Posted by freeztar

Then you could turn that 'butterfly-effect' solar panel fan into transmittable energy, for the open market.

OT i had this up for a day last week 'til rain threatened. i'm thinking of canibalizing the fan motor for my dibble machine as the motor has a transmission that drives the fan's oscillation.

[QUOTE=InfiniteNow] brotherly conduct and a deep genuflection in your direction Buddy, for providing the evidence.

Originally Posted by JayQ

Jay-qu
I saw this turtle, when you posted the wiki in the mobius thread, but i didnt see the sketch.. I got it to work but that patent only seems to have sketches of coils for electomagnets..

indeed...so now with the drawing & description at hand we can set to determining why the device is referenced in relation to Mobius strips. inquiring minds want to know.

[Jay-qu]

Originally Posted by Turtle

so now with the drawing & description at hand we can set to determining why the device is referenced in relation to Mobius strips. inquiring minds want to know.

Hmm it doesnt seem to make sense why they reference this device..

One device that does get a mention is the Mobius resistor, but still that has nothing to do with the price of fish in china..

I dont see how it is that the above patent, in use with a mobius resistor can be used for "global transmission of electricity without wires"