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Re: Finally switched to linux... what now?
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hehe, got ya going, Mr D, didn't i? :P
apple does not hate open-source, they just dont cater to it, nor release any info... for what its worth, zune does not work on linux either, and at all... to my knowledge...
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what else do you call it when they alter their hard/software so it can no longer be used very well with Ubu. and other Nux derivetives...I'll have to relocate the link I found on the subject....think I found it at Ubu. Forums.
Freezy, I gotta say tis unusual that you aren't getting better help. Usually they're right on the ball when it comes to sorting stuff out. you go under the Freezy handle there too?
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Re: Finally switched to linux... what now?
windows does not, but if you resintall it or repair it, it will write its own boot loader, in which case you will have to redo the grub install, but its really easy
boot into a live linux environment
mount your linux partitions
bind proc
mount dev
chroot into your other linux installation
fire up grub
do setup (hd0)
do quit
logout
unmount all
reboot
and enjoy grub working again... because all the config files and your kernel are on a separate partition, everything should be back to normal.
Freezy, ask me, i will help (pm me, i'll send you my im info, etc)
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Re: Finally switched to linux... what now?
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you go under the Freezy handle there too?
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The exact same. 
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Re: Finally switched to linux... what now?
Found where it say bout windoze not respectin Ubu partition....tis on my Gutsy installer
Off I go! (to find that whole apple Ipod Ubu. thingy)
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Re: Finally switched to linux... what now?
Why would you install it in .....yegchk...windoze?
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Why would you install it in .....yegchk...windoze?
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I was thinking about my ubu troubles this morning and remembered the big stopper. Ubuntu requires me to set up a share partition (I don't remember doing this when I set up Kubuntu). So I booted with gparted and tried to do that, but it will not let me create more than three partitions (I already have one for Vista, one for XP, and one for Kubuntu which is also a storage partition). So, the only solution is to delete one of these partitions or else reformat and set up extended partitions, or some such. This is why I tried to load it through windows.
The solution was made easy for me though as I got a nasty virus overnight somehow and it will not even let me boot into XP. When it logs me in, it immediately logs me out (even in safe mode). So, I think I'm going to spend the day backing up files using Kubuntu and then just reformat the drive and load everything back on. I'm not going to install Vista though. 
Fun! 
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Ubuntu does NOT require you to setup a share partition...
all it needs are 3 partitions, 1 for boot (i keep that one separate)
1 for swap
1 for /
boot - about 100mb
swap - i keep around 1024-2048 though i have completely not used swap at all before
/ - as much space as you care to give it
only thing is that your boot partition can not be a logical partition, and has to have a boot flag
for mount points, make sure boot mounts in /boot, slash in / and swap is swap
for file systems, keep boot ext2 or ext3, swap will be swap, / can be ext3, but i recommend reiserfs
do not touch the windows partitions, if you need to resize them, make sure you defrag them before hand, then gparted will resize them without any risk of loosing data, but remembering that you already have ubuntu installed, this should not be a problem.
if you need to make a partition to share data (one you can read an write to from both windowses and linux, make a partition with fat file system on it, all 3 OSes can freely read/write to it...
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Re: Finally switched to linux... what now?
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Ubuntu does NOT require you to setup a share partition...
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Sorry, I meant swap.
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if you need to make a partition to share data (one you can read an write to from both windowses and linux, make a partition with fat file system on it, all 3 OSes can freely read/write to it...
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Doesn't NTFS work as well?
So, does this make sense for initial partitioning after formatting?
logical partition 1: xp
logical partition 2: /boot
logical partition 3: extended partition (/, swap, and share)
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Re: Finally switched to linux... what now?
actually it does not, because vista writes different headers with ntfs then xp, sometimes security descriptors wont allow Xp to open those files up. Besides NTFS write is still considered to be experimental in Linux... better safe then sorry, FAT, unfortunately, still the only "Safe" choice... though i say that with LOTS of irony...
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Re: Finally switched to linux... what now?
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So, does this make sense for initial partitioning after formatting?
logical partition 1: xp
logical partition 2: /boot
logical partition 3: extended partition (/, swap, and share[FAT32])
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What about this? Or do you recommend something else?
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