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I am biologist by profession andI know a little about programming. Irecently came across genetic programming and I want to know more about it. Also what are the pre-requisites for a layman like me to understand this.Any lucid review for beginners on this pl.hyperlink me.


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python .... and then ... lisp give you liinks in a few moments, have to run to class


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ok links:
python - www.python.org
lisp tutorial- www.apl.jhu.edu/~hall/lisp.html

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Basically python was created to teach people how to propperly program and indent the code, its a great beginner language, and is powerfull enough to write linux package management systems like portage.
Lisp is the crazy language where programs create programs, create programs, and so forth. Lisp is the language primarily used in Emacs .... oops, Artifficial Intelligence and Genetic Programming, so it will be a perfect hit, its not a really great language to stat with, and thats why python is first, but you dont need the complexity of C++ and other low-level languages...


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Have you checked out genetic-programming.org?


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i have on a few occasions already


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Thank you very much alex for your suggestions and there is a beginner's guide for non-programmers too.


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As I've said, Python was created to teach people how to program, its a beautiful language that has as much power as you want it to, you have the ability to import C libraries, so nothing should be undoable.


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I'll have to admit I've become quite fond of Python, and I'd recommend it for the same reason alexander does. Its going to be interesting to see whether it beats Java or goes the way of Logo...but that's for the "Basic.." thread....

BTW: I'll also strongly second alexander's recommendation of Lisp, which is one of my all-time favorite languages, although you should be aware that it goes back to the sixties, and is quite a bizarre language and very obtuse in its syntax ((caaddar ....))))

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I'll have to admit I've become quite fond of Python, and I'd recommend it for the same reason alexander does. Its going to be interesting to see whether it beats Java or goes the way of Logo...but that's for the "Basic.." thread....

BTW: I'll also strongly second alexander's recommendation of Lisp, which is one of my all-time favorite languages, although you should be aware that it goes back to the sixties, and is quite a bizarre language and very obtuse in its syntax ((caaddar ....))))
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Yeah, I'd like to see whether it is going to become as popular as Java. oh, btw, there was anexperiment done to see how much space a program consumes at runtime, they were doing C, C++, C# and Java, and the source was very much similar for all of the contestants.

I think that the reslts were something like:
C - 6k
C++ - 7-8k
C# - 11k
Java - 170M (with the JRE loading and everything)
it was quite amazing though, pretty hilarious too


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Oh that's a silly test: C/C++/C# are all the same compiler with slightly different overheads due to class features needing to be layered in, and they're not counting the runtime libraries and OS calls that the JRE replaces... even discounting it, its still just a test of the compiler writer's optimization skills...

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