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Old 03-10-2005
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I am a total dummy in Linux and need some quick help.

1) As i understand, there are options for GUIs such as KDE. What is the most user-friendly one for someone accustomed to Windows? And what do they offer other than the interface. Is there any performance difference?

2) What difference do the different linux packages make. Like red hat, mandrake and fedora.

3)It seems that my mandrakelinux runs very slow compared to windows 98/ME. How can I improve the performance? Should I use a different Linux package? Or the settings? Or the GUI?

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Re: Linux questions

Ok, sorry tinny for a long wait, i was out for a while, and why didnt anyone else answer yet?
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1) As i understand, there are options for GUIs such as KDE. What is the most user-friendly one for someone accustomed to Windows? And what do they offer other than the interface. Is there any performance difference?
Some? there is so many, 2 main and biggest being KDE and Gnome, there is so many, from boxes (blackbox, fluxbox, openbox, whitebox), to 3d guis (looking glass, metisse) and anything in between.
acrually my friend was telling me about one that was a lot more user firendly than windows gui, because it made more sense, i'll ask him about that... if you want a more complete GUI, use Gnome, although some people prefer KDE over it, i just hate the bells and whissles of it, but either one works fine. Just wait a while, maybe i'll think of the name of the super friendly gui that kicks explorers buttocks really badly in its user friedability (as for me, i hate big, shiny, bloated GUIs, so i use blackbox...)
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2) What difference do the different linux packages make. Like red hat, mandrake and fedora.
If you want a package, get yourself a debian-based distro, not debian itself, but a debian-based distro, or better yet Gentoo if you want real linux and want to know about the inner workings of your operating system... The difference is custimizability, kernel patches, packages that they come with, package clients, and lastly who you pay money to, and mostly how they use the money the money you pay them. (P.S. whatever you do, dont use RedHat)
Why Gentoo?
the Packge management system is crazy awesome, the installation requires an internet connection and either a live CD or knoppix, because you download most of your system, oh yeah, and you need a decently fast connection in order to operate gentoo on everyday basis, so if you have a DSL or Cable connection, at least at work (btw i have not figured out how to setup dialup under linux, but its just a matter of time)...
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3)It seems that my mandrakelinux runs very slow compared to windows 98/ME. How can I improve the performance? Should I use a different Linux package? Or the settings? Or the GUI?
right back at you: when was the last time you have updated, how much space do your partitions have on the hard drive, how many big packages do you have installed, what version of mandrake are you running, how much ram and swap does your system have, and lastly how is your kernel configured, what do you load and what services do you have start and what is in your cron, are you root kitted, can you check? Linux should perform better than windows all the time, if your system has been compromised or there is something wrong, it can start bogging down, also if you are running a big GUI and your system can not handle it, you will run into huge performance losses, also if you have many services run, you will run into performance loss, and lasty if you have any drivers that are unstable, you may run into a performance loss (there's much more, but first i need to know the answers to the questions above...) to ask a series of new ones
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Re: Linux questions

Alex, do expect that I don't know technical stuff about computers in general, and specifically linux. so avoid the jargon where you can.
My main question is about improving performance of mandrakelinux wiht KDE gui. it is running on P4 1.5ghz with 128 ram. takes a whole load of time just to open the file explorer.
itś not my computer but one at the library. the librarian wanted linux.. i donšt know much about the computer settings and hardware. but i do notice the performance lag compared to winXP.
by the way, whereś a good source of material to read about migrating from windows to linux?
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that's great. thanks a lot. will go through.
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that's great. thanks a lot. will go through.
so how are things going? have you gone through the linux articles?

in anycase, the library at my college has just removed the 3 linbux computers which they approved me to install. this isnt due to the linux slow performance (particularly in those 3 computers) but there was a new batch of computers -P4 2.8 w/t HT- that come equipped with WinXP...

but not all is lost, the older computers can still be salvaged (RAMs, HDDs) and I'm planing to install Linux in them.. well, not like they are of any use when being left in the store...

but then again, with 2 computers going to be merged into one -that is the parts of 1 are going to be salvaged into the other- i do think that they are strong enough to run Win98 smoothly...

so actually im divided whether to choose win98 (the computers came with the license) or Linux...

personally, I do like linux's GUI interface, but as Tinny has mentioned, I did notice performance lag, espacially in the booting process and the launching of application

they are: P2 400, P3 500 and P4 1.5.. however they are equipped with only 64MB (for the formers) and 128MB (for the latter) of RAM.

so do you think i should just abandon Linux and opt for win98 since enough hardware sources can be gathered...?

I guess i should make a thread abt this as it already involves sth other than linux
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not many people are comfortable using linux at libraries. Especially over in my country, Malaysia. So if those comps are to be used for public, then go for win98. Anyway, not many are that good in destroying the computer as long as the appropriate software is used.
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Anyway, not many are that good in destroying the computer as long as the appropriate software is used.
No way... but before I start to argue, please define 'appropriate software'... and please shed more light regarding your point, i dont quite get it..

appropriate software.. huh
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among the approriate software include:
up-to-date anti-virus, anti-spam, adaware etc
a rollback software to reset system configurations, similar to those you find at cyber cafes. hmmm.. if cyber cafes can survive with windows, there's no reason you can't. All the do is employ 'appropriate software'.
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U gave a very good point with the Roll-back softwares used in cybercafes. In fact, that's what im planning to impliment on all computers under my command (those slow P2s and P3s)

Anti Virus, ad awre and anti spam are only or almost only good againts external threats.. From my 6 months experience as the computer admin for the library, I found that the students are very sharp.. no, they are tricky, they know what to do to disable this and that... anti virus and the other 2 softwares you have just mentioned are of no use againts them...

to be honest, I'm more afraid of the students and the way they tweak the Windows as compared to external arttacks... some of them installed Bitcommet which is used to download stuff and that could make me in hot soup... he's very tricky at that, changing his Bitcomet folder locations every now and then..

some installed keyloggers, while I can use the adawre to remove them, with 10 computers under my wing, i'd rather bar them from installing the keyloggers than to scan for the keyloggers...

There are ways to bar the students from doing this and that but a lot of early post-installation steps must be taken and I'm not prepared for that yet as I'm not actually a full admid... but I'll do my best for the students' desire to use the computers smoothly...

rolback software is a good idea, we have the resources, i just need some means to impliment it...

do u have any good 'free' rollback software in mind?
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