[bigfatpothead]

again I disagree.

I have done a lot of shooting and experimenting with
blowing things up. I have a pretty good analitical mind and I can SEE!!

go look at my google earth places
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/craters.kmz

download it and load it into google earth.

now look at the impact craters I have marked.

they only appear in a strip going north to south
and line up perfectly with the arc in Alabama.

I will keep searching til I find the main chunk that got ejected.

The bigger ones are in the carolina bays.
I can explain the oblong craters in the carolina bays.
If you follow the direction of the oblong craters, they point right to the impact zone.

I am collecting evidence for my theory and I think it will pan out as true.
I will see how much shocked quartz is found in Marshall Alabama.

Roland A. Duby

Brothers For Mercy

Originally Posted by Turtle

This is a science site, so you're gonna have to do better than that. Even on the low end of entry speed, we are talking about 20 times the speed of sound. This is high energy physics, not marbles, not billiard balls, not anything you have common familiarity with in real experience.

Your hazy speculations don't make up for actual geologic field studies. Is there shocked mineral(s) in the rock you suspect is an impact site?

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by bigfatpothead

again I disagree. [about high-energy impacts]

I have done a lot of shooting and experimenting with
blowing things up. I have a pretty good analitical mind and I can SEE!!

Let me persuade you of your mistakeness. No facility on Earth can reproduce these kinds of material velocities, which are ~10 times as fast as the fastest rifle bullet. Here is something for your analytical mind to look at; done by the big boys.

Originally Posted by BigBoys

The velocity of meteorites can reach 100 km/sec and higher. There is currently no facility that can accelerate a sample in the solid state up to such speeds to experimentally simulate a high velocity meteorite impact. But for velocities larger than 10 km/sec. the kinetic energy density in a meteorite is much larger then the material evaporation energy, so the impact can be simulated by an impulsive, local energy release. The time of release must be smaller than the impact time and the energy must be released on a scale comparable with the meteorite size. ...

Simulating High Speed Meteorite Impact Physics with Experiments on the PetaWatt

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PS >> Killer crater found under the ice in Antarctica
...The 300-mile-wide crater lies hidden more than a mile beneath the East Antarctic Ice Sheet. ...

[Hill]

Originally Posted by bigfatpothead

After examining the Carolina bay craters I am convinced that their origin is the same as the origin of the craters all over Texas, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.
here is my places I saved from google earth
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/craters.kmz

I looked at the elongated craters and I followed the direction they are all pointing to. It is exactly where I say a large impact site happened in Alabama.


I was browsing google earth and found that a very large object hit the US and scraped along the surface before

Exploding in alabama and showering the midwest with huge rocks that left craters all over texas and arkansas.

Most of these craters have taken the form of small ponds.


The impact point is a hundred miles or so south east of huntsville Al.

And there is a huge impact crater that goes through 3 states.

The thing was so huge that it carved out the Appalachian mountains.

You can zoom in on them and see the serated edges of the object

Where it rolled and scraped the land.

Ronnie Smith

Your geology seems confusing BFP.

First:

Exploding in alabama and showering the midwest with huge rocks that left craters all over texas and arkansas. as well as Oklahoma and North Carolina

Most of these craters have taken the form of small ponds.

I am attaching my google earth places file so you can look at it yourself.

http://www.bigfatpothead.com/craters.kmz

Your placemark locates one of many man-made stock ponds in the area. Some are round. Others are oval, rectangular, and random shapes. These ponds are created in this area - and throughout the world, to water livestock. The mechanism is a bulldozer, not meteoric debris.

Second:

The impact point is a hundred miles or so south east of huntsville Al.

And there is a huge impact crater that goes through 3 states.

The thing was so huge that it carved out the Appalachian mountains.

You can zoom in on them and see the serated edges of the object

Where it rolled and scraped the land.

Here are some images I put on my site



http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/1.jpg
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/2.jpg
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/3.jpg
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/4.jpg

Your screenshots of Alabama highlight geologic structures that are much older than 65,000,000 years, the time of the demise of the dinosaurs. ( Current geological models and evidence point to Chixulub Crater of the Yucatan Penninsula in Mexico as the crater that helped to end the dinosaurs' reign)


Source

The parallel stripes in the southern and western part of Alabama are rocks which were laid down during retreat of the waters of an inland sea which once almost split what is now North America. They date from less than 65 MY to over 95 MY. The rocks trending SW from the NE corner of the state are the ancient (480 MY) eroded Appalachians

There is a known meteor crater under Wetumpka. It is well eroded and was proven by drilling deep below the surface structures. It has a diameter of about 4 miles and is about 81 MY old. There is a link here.

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by Hill

Your geology seems confusing BFP.

First:


Your placemark locates one of many man-made stock ponds in the area. Some are round. Others are oval, rectangular, and random shapes. These ponds are created in this area - and throughout the world, to water livestock. The mechanism is a bulldozer, not meteoric debris.

Second:


Your screenshots of Alabama highlight geologic structures that are much older than 65,000,000 years, the time of the demise of the dinosaurs. ( Current geological models and evidence point to Chixilub Crater of the Yucatan Penninsula in Mexico as the crater that helped to end the dinosaurs' reign)


Source

The parallel stripes in the southern and western part of Alabama are rocks which were laid down during retreat of the waters of an inland sea which once almost split what is now North America. They date from less than 65 MY to over 95 MY. The rocks trending SW from the NE corner of the state are the ancient (480 MY) eroded Appalachians

There is a known meteor crater under Wetumpka. It is well eroded and was proven by drilling deep below the surface structures. It has a diameter of about 4 miles and is about 81 MY old. There is a link here.

Some of what you say may be true but the Carolina Bays are not stock pods built by bulldozers. I live there, I've heard the arguments most of my long and wicked life. They might not be meteor craters but they are not man made.

[Hill]

Originally Posted by Moontanman

Some of what you say may be true but the Carolina Bays are not stock pods built by bulldozers. I live there, I've heard the arguments most of my long and wicked life. They might not be meteor craters but they are not man made.

Sorry if there was a misunderstanding. I was referring to his kmz file >>
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/craters.kmz (Google Earth required) which locates a stock pond in NE Texas. My original post in this thread details my opinions about the Carolina Bays.

[Moontanman]

Originally Posted by Hill

People had lived in North Carolina, and other places, and never though much about the many small shallow lakes and ponds in the vicinity except to figure out ways to drain them and plant crops there. That changed in 1930 when the first aerial photographs of the area were taken.

The lakes were then discovered to be of about the same shape and orientation, and people began to speculate about their origin. One strong contender for awhile has been the bays are formed by winds, and or water currents. The other strong contender is that they were formed by a large meteor or comet that exploded high in the atmosphere and spewed chunks of itself over much of North America.

Recent evidence strongly supports the fragmented comet theory. Rather than duplicate everything I've gathered at the Google Earth Community Forums, I'll provide a link: Google Earth Community: The mystery of the Carolina Bays
The initial post has some links itself. The Carolina Bays has a video of a conference about event which is rather long but may be of perticular interest because it contains current information (May, 2007).

Great post Hill, I've been scuba diving in several of these bays and they all had an artisian spring supplying them with water. When I get rich I'm going to buy a house on one I won't hold my breath but they are very interesting, some of them have no outlet or inlet other than the spring. This allows for sometimes unique fish populations. More often they have been stocked with exotic fish (for the area) and have little or no trace of the orginal populations.

[bigfatpothead]

Are these MAN MADE Ponds?
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/5.jpg
or these
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/6.jpg

http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/7.jpg

Originally Posted by Hill

Sorry if there was a misunderstanding. I was referring to his kmz file >>
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/craters.kmz (Google Earth required) which locates a stock pond in NE Texas. My original post in this thread details my opinions about the Carolina Bays.

[Hill]

Originally Posted by bigfatpothead

Are these MAN MADE Ponds?
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/5.jpg
or these
http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/6.jpg

http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/7.jpg

Indeed they are, as well as the first twenty of your hundred or so I looked at in your posted folder. You are getting to be very good at finding stock ponds. If you browse the globe anywhere in the world where people raise farm animals you will find them. The big empty Western states and provinces have many as does Australia, and many countries in Africa, South America and Asia and Europe. (None that I know of in Antarctica)

Your eyes are sharp and if you browse the earth you will find many more things which puzzle you and amaze you. You might even get lucky and find a real meteor crater as someone in Australia recently did. The story is here: Google Earth Community: New crater discovered in Western Australia

[bigfatpothead]

I have drawn a red line from a crater to a city.
You cannot possibly believe that this is a pond for livestock!
if you zoom in on it you will see that it is full of trees.

http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/9.jpg

http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/a.jpg

Stock ponds are full of water, not trees.
no disrespect.

Originally Posted by Hill

Indeed they are, as well as the first twenty of your hundred or so I looked at in your posted folder. You are getting to be very good at finding stock ponds. If you browse the globe anywhere in the world where people raise farm animals you will find them. The big empty Western states and provinces have many as does Australia, and many countries in Africa, South America and Asia and Europe. (None that I know of in Antarctica)

Your eyes are sharp and if you browse the earth you will find many more things which puzzle you and amaze you. You might even get lucky and find a real meteor crater as someone in Australia recently did. The story is here: Google Earth Community: New crater discovered in Western Australia

[Hill]

Originally Posted by bigfatpothead

I have drawn a red line from a crater to a city.
You cannot possibly believe that this is a pond for livestock!
if you zoom in on it you will see that it is full of trees.

http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/9.jpg

http://www.bigfatpothead.com/earth/a.jpg

Stock ponds are full of water, not trees.
no disrespect.

No disrespect was perceived. It's really fun to zoom around the globe and find things you always knew were there, but you can now see from a different vantage point. It's also fun to find things you don't understand and would like to figure out, as well as to speculate and debate about things. This is a lot about how science is done.

But using the right tools or knowing how to get the most out of the tools is very important. Take your screenshot 9.jpg for instance. Ponds do dry up and are often then filled by a succesion of types of vegetation. *(more on this below) That might be true in the case of the feature at the other end of the red line extending NE from Lometa, TX - if it was a pond. But it wasn't. If you make sure that terrain is on and you tilt your view, you will see that the feature is a tree covered hill.

a.jpg marks a spot near some oil drilling pads. Often in the course of drilling for oil or gas the drill goes through an aquifer and water come to the surface, and it looks like at least one of the wells produced some water. Other than that I see nothing special about the area imaged in screen capture a.jpg

* Speaking of the age of ponds and lakes, many large lakes occupied land in the American west during the last glacial period a bit over 10,000 years ago. Now with a few exceptions all that remains are salt flats. Small ponds have an even shorter life. To claim that such small water features would still exist after over 65.000,000 years of erosion and tectonic action just does not fit with what we know about geological processes.

The giant meteor scar you depict in Alabama is the the combination of two different geological processes which have been much studied and investigated, mountain building (uplift) in the case of the ancient Appalachians and near shore deposition of sediments from an extinct sea in the case of the southern layered rocks. The rocks from one geological province are of a much different age and type from the rocks of another province. They are related only by proximity and not history or process. The small ponds in Texas are separated from the other two by geologial time as well as process.