New Data Validates Global Warming Projections

cygonaut · 04-30-2005

New Data Validates Global Warming Projections

Climate scientists, with the aid of diving robots probing the world's warming seas, have found the heat exchange between Earth and space is seriously out of balance -- what the researchers called a "smoking gun" discovery that validates forecasts of global warming.

Full story at:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science....ap/index.html

Tormod · 04-30-2005

Thanks for your post - but it is against our rules (and the laws of most countries) to post copyrighted material. Post the title, a summary, and a link.

Or better yet: Go directly to the source and get the full, non-copyrighted press release, which we CAN use:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-sce042505.php

cygonaut · 04-30-2005

Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Sorry all.

UncleAl · 04-30-2005

Global warming is the ficative desiccation and immolation of the entire Earth for political convenience and the Carbon Tax on Everything.

1) We know exactly how much fossil fuel is burned each year.
2) Uncertainty in natural CO2 emissions is greater than total anthropogenic CO2.
3) California has had the wettest year in 120 years. Average temps have sustained at ten dgrees F below normal for more than three months. Michigan got snow in April as well as a number of other states...
5) Both Arctic and Antarctic winter temps are the lowest on record, rationalizing the Ozone Hole. Get your lies organized.
4) We are in an interglacial. The planet is supposed to be warm. Earth cycles between snowball and tropical forest. The Carboniferous Period was 64 million years of warm humid global Garden of Eden. What is wrong with that?

That which supports Global Warming supports it.
That ignores supports Global Warming supports it.
That which contradicts Global Warming supports it - more studies needed.
Anybody who questions Global Warming is thereby proven unfit to judge.

The Emperor is naked.

cygonaut · 04-30-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleAl

Global warming is the ficative desiccation and immolation of the entire Earth for political convenience and the Carbon Tax on Everything.

1) We know exactly how much fossil fuel is burned each year.
2) Uncertainty in natural CO2 emissions is greater than total anthropogenic CO2.
3) California has had the wettest year in 120 years. Average temps have sustained at ten dgrees F below normal for more than three months. Michigan got snow in April as well as a number of other states...
5) Both Arctic and Antarctic winter temps are the lowest on record, rationalizing the Ozone Hole. Get your lies organized.
4) We are in an interglacial. The planet is supposed to be warm. Earth cycles between snowball and tropical forest. The Carboniferous Period was 64 million years of warm humid global Garden of Eden. What is wrong with that?

That which supports Global Warming supports it.
That ignores supports Global Warming supports it.
That which contradicts Global Warming supports it - more studies needed.
Anybody who questions Global Warming is thereby proven unfit to judge.

The Emperor is naked.

Thanks for your response.

I'm a skeptic and myth-buster myself as well as a space development block-buster.

There is indeed political spin involved and I propose that the bulk of it is coming from the right who are abundantly cost-conscious but, sadly, as benefit blind as it gets.

Anyway, just above the title on that CNN page is a link to a "Timeline" which is interesting I think.

cygonaut · 04-30-2005

The National Climatic Data Center has long served the Nation as a national resource for climate information. NCDC develops national and global data sets used by government and the private sector. NCDC's climate data has been used in agriculture, air quality, construction, education, energy, engineering, forestry, health, insurance, landscape design, livestock management, manufacturing, recreation and tourism, retailing, transportation, and water resources management. The center's data fulfills needs ranging from building codes to power plant and space shuttle design.

Here's NCDC's FAQ's on Global Warming
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

If you have questions about where you can find or obtain data, you can write to

ncdc.info@noaa.gov

cygonaut · 05-06-2005

To further complicate things (and so I don't have to start another thread -lol), the earth has become brighter.

But nobody knows why.

The brightening could partly explain the record-high global temperatures reported in the late 1990's, and it could accelerate the planet's warming trend.

Source

Fishteacher73 · 05-06-2005

This could be a combination of albedo of both of the surface as well as atmosphere. That is if you are implying by bright meaning light is at a higher intensity.
This could also be a result of solar variations.

cygonaut · 05-06-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishteacher73

This could be a combination of albedo of both of the surface as well as atmosphere. That is if you are implying by bright meaning light is at a higher intensity.
This could also be a result of solar variations.

The earth, overall, was getting dimmer for decades, then, overall, the earth began getting brighter starting around 1990. Some places stayed about the same dimness, others, such as in India, got dimmer.

The dimming helps reduce the greenhouse effect though the earth was still getting hotter.

The growing overall brightness since 1990 might explain the unusual heat in the late 1990's.