[rockytriton]

Finally someone with some sense.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220

[C1ay]

There is also news that global warming ended in 1998....

Originally Posted by Telegraph

There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998

For many years now, human-caused climate change has been viewed as a large and urgent problem. In truth, however, the biggest part of the problem is neither environmental nor scientific, but a self-created political fiasco. Consider the simple fact, drawn from the official temperature records of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, that for the years 1998-2005 global average temperature did not increase (there was actually a slight decrease, though not at a rate that differs significantly from zero).

Yes, you did read that right. And also, yes, this eight-year period of temperature stasis did coincide with society's continued power station and SUV-inspired pumping of yet more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

More....

[rockytriton]

Did anyone see that south park global warming episode? It was great, it also did a good job of making fun of that rediculous movie "The Day After Tomorrow".

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by rockytriton

Finally someone with some sense....

The Wall Street Journal article suffers from all the faults that it accuses the proponents of global warming. It conveniently ignores that the opponents of global warming ALSO have huge financial and political incentives to remain "in denial", and leaves the impression that ONLY the proponents have agendas. It ignores the attempts of the Bush administration to edit, rewrite or trash environmental studies by well respected and fastidiously "neutral" agencies just trying to do their jobs.

Compare with the recent Time Magazine article on global environmental changes. One or the other is lying. My money is on Time.

[ipruul]

Well, "The Day After Tomorrow" was quite ridiculous movie, but no one is telling that it might happen.
But has anyone heared that theory, which tells that earth is in a loop. Now we are in a warming state, but sooner or later, we have to face another ice age. But for that, we will have to wait for about million years.

[InfiniteNow]

The Earth, and all things that exist for that matter, can be described in terms of cycles. There is validity to the concept that ice ages and heating cycles are occurring every so often, and not that far apart when held relative to geological time scales.

The Day After Tomorrow, while somewhat silly, at the VERY least brought these issues to the attention of an audience who might not otherwise pay much attention. It is (loosely) based on fact, and I enjoyed it myself. Had wonderful graphics... like the sequence where the tidal wave came in over Manhattan... that was righteous.

The bigger issue raised when Global warming is discussed is our impact on it. Clearly, millions and millions and millions of cars and factories (and...) burning fossil fuel are having an impact, and the shifts are more than just nature cycling.

Anyway, welcome to Hypo ipruul. It's a bit like walking through the halls of multiple great universities and discussing ideas with those around you... but all from your computer. Enjoy!


Cheers.

[chamilton333]

Originally Posted by C1ay

There is also news that global warming ended in 1998....

how can you say global warming stopped? the global temperature raised by about 1.08 degrees farenhiet last year...... the equivalant of if every person had 42 heaters!

Source: Popular Science Magazine

[Pyrotex]

Originally Posted by C1ay

There is also news that global warming ended in 1998....

I'm sorry C1ay, but that "news" seems to missed Scientific American magazine, several planetary science journals, Av Week, a whole bunch of CNN style news broadcasters and news websites, Science Weekly, National Geographic and numerous other venues of current scientific information.

Could it be, possibly, that you have fallen victim to...

...The Ultra-Conservative Press ????

[Wondering]

Originally Posted by C1ay

There is also news that global warming ended in 1998....

I read that 2005 that NASA announced that 2005 was the warmest year on record. It was very close to the last warmest year (which was in the ninties, i forget which one right now) but since 2005 didn't have an el nino and the last warmest year did, it has concerned scientists. I definetly don't think that global warming has ended. How could it?

[pgrmdave]

Could it be, possibly, that you have fallen victim to...

...The Ultra-Conservative Press ????

Could it be that you've fallen victim to the Ultra-Liberal Press? The truth is, we don't know why the temperatures were/are raising. We know that the gasses produced by industry and automobiles tend to increase the greenhouse effect, but we have a very limited amount of data to work with, and so we really can't know exactly what is going on.