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07-08-2006
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient Truth Your a very ignorant person Uncle Al, i cant believe theres people like you in the world. If you'd rather see the majority of the human race die, you obviously have no feelings. You obviously havnt seen the videos where little african kids are too weak to move, or where the women have to walk 20 miles just to get drinking water that will probably kill them anyway. The people who live in 3rd world countries are 50x stronger than you'l ever be and they could live on there own with no aid, but if you'd rather not help them then your quite literally a disgrace to the human race. Anyway who cares that they contribute to global warming. 1 of them in a year would use as much energy as you do in a day, so id rather see you die. Global warming cant be reversed anyway so this post is irrevelent.
Sorry i got a bit carried away 
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient Truth I can't believe the people that take Unc so seriously.....
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07-08-2006
|  | Doing the Impossible | | | | | Re: An Inconvenient Truth Quote: |
Originally Posted by Barry Scott Your an asshole Uncle Al, i cant believe theres people like you in the world. | Barry, I don't think your statement comes as any revelation to Uncle Al. He may even agree with you.  He has seen all of the things that you describe and has reached a different conclusion from doing so than you have.
In looking at your post objectivly, I would suggest that you get your thought better organized before posting if you are trying to participate in discussion and be taken seriously. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Barry Scott where the women have to walk 20 miles just to get drinking water that will probably kill them anyway | You advocate helping people, with walking as their only form of transportation, to live in areas that are 20 miles from the nearest water sourse, and that water might kill them? If people choose to live in such a place, then they don't need my help to enable their insanity. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Barry Scott The people who live in 3rd world countries are 50x stronger than you'l ever be and they could live on there own with no aid | I remember as a kid that Dracula had the strength of 10 men. And the wolfman had the strength of 7 men. And Frankenstein's Monster had the strength of a dozen men. Now I can add to that the legendary "3rd world man" with the strength of 50! He could beat five Draculas, or seven wolfmen, or 50 Uncle Al's. Amazing!
What is most amazing is that Al is saying that we should give no aid. And you are saying that no aid is needed. Very interesting. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Barry Scott but if you'd rather not help them then your quite literally a disgrace to the human race. | OK, let me get this straight. If we do not help people who do not need the help, we are a disgrace. You logic is... umm... yours.
Take a breath next time. If you want to be angry with what Al said, that is fine, but express it in such a way that your argument has some weight. All you did this time was make him smile at you, I am sure.
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07-08-2006
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient Truth Quote: |
What is most amazing is that Al is saying that we should give no aid. And you are saying that no aid is needed. Very interesting.
| Uncle Al encourages everyone to personally heap boons upon the unproductive reproductive. Don't legislate that Uncle Al should do it. Uncle Al would purchase a desirable future of ability, not a rotted future of disability.
Four billion Third World bodies emit heat sufficient to melt 40-80 cubic kilometers of ice each year. That is two lines of simple arithmetic, not manifold sheafs of differential equations with a thousand adjustable parameters grinding away in a supercomputer. That is an inescapable fact. That is Global Warming. No Carbon Tax on Everything can possibly counterbalance it.
A power circular saw building homes for productive citizens is no less desirable than a poxy starving meat puppet who remarkably averages 8+ surviving kids when a First World family averages 1.33 (e.g., Japan, Science 312(5782) 1894-1897 (2006)). Quote: |
The point that those to die are to be from 3rd world countries derailed his support.
| Kill the entire First World, poof! One day later, how is that different from allowing the Third World to die of its own hand from cessation of external charity? You permanently stopped the charity with murder while Uncle Al would do it with glee.
Reality has no rational counterargument.
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient Truth This is fun! Hey Do-Gooders, for every $(US)1.00 ripped from your paycheck by jackbooted State compassion, how much actually makes it to the presumed targets? Domestically, less than $0.20 arrives to do something. Government, administration, oversight, fraud, and not-for-profit corporations are expensive. For charity sent overseas... giggle, snort, ha ha ha.
01 August 1971 Concert for Bangladesh gate was $243,418 and album royalties to date are about $15 million. Go ahead, look it up! How much did Bangladesh get FOB Bangaldesh? Well... it all went to UNICEF, and bureaucrats have to eat. 35 years later, they are still working on it. Compare to Dickens' "Jarndyce vs. Jarndyce."
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Originally Posted by C1ay I can't believe the people that take Unc so seriously..... | Clearly UncleAl’s claim is not a one to be taken seriously. Anyone able to perform the data gathering and arithmetic necessary to illustrate its scientific incorrectness is quickly aware of this.
Unfortunately, many readers (and, I fear, a few members) of hypography lack this skill. As claims like this are permitted to be posted at hypography – as they should be in an open forum – it’s important that such “bad science” be argued against. Otherwise, the many readers of this site may be either ill informed, or draw the conclusion that the majority of our members agree with it.
PS: Please, everyone, remain on this thread’s topic – the claim that the death of all or most of the third world would “end global warming” – resisting any urge to stray into a discussion in opposition or support of extremist political ideology.
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07-08-2006
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient Truth I think i took it a bit too far, i take what i said back. I just think sometimes people would be less ignorant and more open minded, after all what makes the 3rd world 'parasites' lifes less worthless than anyone elses | 
07-08-2006
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient Truth TheBigDog i will take a breath next time i post because i did get carried away, but what i was trying to say was, these people could live without aid, even if it means living in poverty, i meant they would live a much happier life with help from other people. I just expressed it wrongly.. | 
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| | | Re: An Inconvenient Truth I think Ron made a very fair point in an earlier post regarding retention.
I can have a massive furnace going in my back yard, if the air is clear enough so the energy can be radiated into space, none if it will reach the arctic to melt 40-80km3 worth of ice. And the air pollution causing thermal retention is generated mostly in the First World. Baddabing baddaboom - remove the First World and you might save the ice. Remove the Third World, and hardly anybody would notice. Except the poor buggers in the Third World, of course.
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